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Originally Posted by markjut
Hi all of you,
I have been directed to this thread by DemoCentre to clear a few things up. Firstly i'd like to tell you all that although I am a new member to this forum, I am experienced in dealing with things like this on other forums which I won't mention here in fear of breaking the rules as they are different everywhere.
I am a webhost as well as an experienced content writer, and a month or so ago, I replied to an advert for a contact writer by DemoCentre. I was given the job by Nathan and my job was to reword some of the tutorials to make them more profesional and also to check all of the other major competitors to make sure that the guides were not too similar. Whilst doing this I noticed how similar all of the Demo guides where on each of the companies that offer this. They all had huge similarities that looked clearly like they had been copied at some stage. It is of no doubt that all of the demo companies are guilty of this to a certain extent, but Nathan at DemoCentre actually was determined to make sure that his company changed them to prevent any clashes like this, which to me shows great professionalism.
I find it quite sad to see that another DemoDemo is acusing DemoCentre of copying tutorials when OnlyDemos seems to have a lot of sentances and captions the same. I also find it strange to see moderators on this forum threating Nathan for posting a personal attack, when I could quote several sentances from DemoDemo that do exactly the same thing.
I feel that if DemoDemo want to take this further then they should do so in a court room rather than continuing to post messages which could damage their own position if such a court case ever occured.
I hope you read what I say, and I ask you all to be objective and not to try and pick my message apart saying that Nathan told me to write this etc. I am willing to post all of my evidence of what I did for DemoCentre to the moderators so it can be confirmed.
Thanks
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Mark:
Please address the following points:
1. Refer to my last post in this thread. Open up the Xmail tutorials at democentre in another window. Now please take the time to compare the text that I posted to all the text throughout the Webmail tutorial. I challenge you to tell me that it is not 95% copied verbatum. I will be surprised if you tell me otherwise. If you can't see the obvious, then you have no credibility in this discussion.
2. Why was democentre's zencart product page taken down (again) after I posted that, for example, the "Installing Zencart" was still mostly a rip of my text?
As for your other points, yes, sadly, there are far too many tutorial providers who rip content. But I will tell you unequivocally that I will never be shown to have ripped another provider. I take great pride in my work, and I would never lower myself to that level. Besides, I have my own style of writing , so I wish to maintain consistency throughout all my product. In fact, if by chance some other provider produces a series before I do, I
never even
watch their tutorials before I produce a series for my own site. I am vehement about creating my own content, my own topics list, etc. By contrast, look at many of the other providers in the market and tell me how many copy everything from my topics list to my content. Unfortunately, far too many don't bother to make the effort of defining their own style and feel, and take the cheap way out by copying someone else's hard work. It's pretty sad, really. I will say at this point that the one competitor who has taken the high road and made the effort to develop his own content is Demowolf. And for that, I applaud Rob.
Onlydemos? Yes, I have caught them a few times in the past, and I have enforced my right of copyright. If they still are doing it (as you claim), then I will investigate and take appropriate action.
You feel that my recent actions in the forums are inappropriate? You feel that I should take this to the courtroom? You feel that I am making statements of personal attack? Well, let me explain. Democentre is located in the UK. I am not particularly interested in spending the money required to sue someone in another country. Given my options, I prefer to achieve my goal via forums and via reporting to upstream providers. In the end, the reuslt will (hopefully) be the same, and I will not have wasted money on legally pursuing every person who decides to steal from me.
You think my words have been of inappropriate personal attack in nature? Read all my posts.
All my posts have been factual. If I call someone a thief,
it is because they have stolen from me.
What else would you have me label them?.
I take my business very seriously. And since I was the "first" to start creating Flash tutorials for web hosting 4 years ago, I have been an easy and obvious target for many newcomers to rip text, product ideas, topics lists, etc. Believe me, you never get used to it, you never become complacent about it. In the end, people who steal from me take food off my family's table. I defy you to challenge my passion in defending my right to protect my own intellectual property. If you cannot see the clarity in my points, then we simply cannot have a discussion, as you are either not willing or not able to grasp these very fundamental facts.
Vito