Get Paid to Participate - up to $1 per post!     Twitter     Facebook     Google+
Hosting Discussion
 

forgot password?



Reply


Old
  Post #16 (permalink)   06-12-2012, 02:36 AM
HD Wizard
 
easyhostmedia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Northumberland, UK
Posts: 5,007
Send a message via MSN to easyhostmedia

Status: easyhostmedia is offline
Quote:
Originally Posted by handsonhosting View Post

Much like the GoDaddy issue - they're a big company. They have millions of users, hundreds of servers, thousands of complaints. Size needs to be factored into the rating along with age of a company, number of clients, churn rates etc etc. Maintaining such a list is going to be a lot of work.
I think this is a major factor as take this as a senario


1) Godaddy has millions of users, hundreds of servers, thousands of complaints.
so lets say Godaddy get 1000 complaints in a 12 month period, to Godaddy this will have no effect or even show on their scales, so they will carry on as nothing has happened.

2) Joe Blogs has 2000 users, 3 servers, a few complaints.
so lets say Joe Blogs get 500 complaints in a 12 month period, to Joe Blogs this a quarter of their userbase and will have a major impact on his reputation.
__________________
Terry Robertson - CEO The Easyhost Media Group
Niceday Hosting - Affordable Hosting
PowerSSL - - We Secure your World
The Scamlist Forum - Fighting against scammers
 
 
 


Old
  Post #17 (permalink)   06-12-2012, 08:04 AM
HD Wizard
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 2,264

Status: handsonhosting is offline
Exactly.

The larger the host, the more the complaints - it's the basic laws of business. There's always going to be someone unhappy, and no matter what you do to resolve a situation, there'll still be someone bitter.
__________________
Emerson Nogueira
http://www.HandsOnWebHosting.com
cPanel Web Hosting, Domain Registration, Managed VPS Servers
 
 
 


Old
  Post #18 (permalink)   06-12-2012, 08:52 PM
HD Management Staff
 
Artashes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 9,801

Status: Artashes is online now
Well, thank you everyone for voicing your opinions. I appreciate it.

Personally, I am of the same opinion as Dan (a.k.a ldcdc). HostingDiscussion is a professional community. We are neither a non for profit organization nor a certification institute to qualify any hosting company or put our stamp of approval on it. We are meant to provide the platform for communication and for the public to discuss, improve and challenge companies. We want our members and guests to make up their own minds and come to their own conclusions with the information available.

For us to start endorsing companies, irrelevant of the fact that we find a way to verify them, would be the end of retaining the neutrality we enjoy. We will lose the informational value as a resource and gain a sentiment of being a "top 10"-like website.

Apart from it all, I've spent years thinking about what makes a perfect review system. Unfortunately, I came to a realization that no such way exist. Too many variables in play. Some of you mentioned a few already. So no matter how many resources we allocate or how many people we assign to a review team, the end result, apart from being subjective, will also never guarantee reliability or good experience with a hosting provider. Which sort of defeats the purpose.
 
 
 


Old
  Post #19 (permalink)   06-12-2012, 09:12 PM
HD Community Advisor
 
SenseiSteve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Saint Louis
Posts: 4,975
Send a message via MSN to SenseiSteve

Status: SenseiSteve is offline
First, I saw a reply here about WHT doing verification, but I've seen very little of that there (my perception).

I agree with Artashes. Hosts change over time. Take NPSIS for example - they had horrific customer support until Hostirian bought them. Hostirian kept the brand of NPSIS and turned that company completely around.

What about providers that change datacenters in an effort to upgrade their services? Do bad reviews one or two years ago still count against them?

How would anyone know how many servers any hosting provider actually manages or how many unique complaints they field?

There's no way any hosting discussion forum staff could ever hope to monitor that.

While I think the intent of the suggestion is honorable, there's no way this could be administered correctly (just my opinion).
__________________
ProlimeHost- Dedicated Server Hosting & KVM SSD VPS
Three Datacenter Locations: Los Angeles, Denver & Singapore
SuperMicro Hardware | Multiple Bandwidth Providers | 24/7 On Site Engineers
 
 
 


Old
  Post #20 (permalink)   06-13-2012, 08:44 AM
HD Management Staff
 
Artashes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 9,801

Status: Artashes is online now
And Steve, just imagine the scale of the operation itself. There are literally 1000s of web hosting companies out there. What if we receive 50, 100, 500 requests to be verified? How do we deal with that volume? How do we control/maintain the information? How we do remain fair and objective to all? There are just so many problems with this grand plan that it has to be done on the highest level by all hosting companies involved (as in they pay an association membership fee in order to support that kind of platform and organization) if they want to gain a seal of approval or appear more credible in the eyes of consumers. I am just afraid if done on a private level, this kind of verification will never live up to its credibility.
 
 
 


Old
  Post #21 (permalink)   06-13-2012, 09:48 AM
HD Wizard
 
easyhostmedia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Northumberland, UK
Posts: 5,007
Send a message via MSN to easyhostmedia

Status: easyhostmedia is offline
Well Art i agree with you, but if OP thinks this is a good idea then you can explain to him why HD would be closed as you and your team would have to spend all your time verifing hosts you wont have any time left for HD.

this is the only way i think such a thing could be implimented
__________________
Terry Robertson - CEO The Easyhost Media Group
Niceday Hosting - Affordable Hosting
PowerSSL - - We Secure your World
The Scamlist Forum - Fighting against scammers
 
 
 


Old
  Post #22 (permalink)   06-13-2012, 04:27 PM
HD Management Staff
 
Artashes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 9,801

Status: Artashes is online now
I think I have already explained my personal stand, why repeat myself.

The OP's idea is a fascinating one, but irrelevant of the resources applied (labor hours and financial support), it is just something that has always been very difficult (nearly impossible) to implement in this industry. And for us, a community, this will be damaging to the level of its objectivity.
 
 
 


Old
  Post #23 (permalink)   06-14-2012, 03:24 PM
HD Amateur
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 56
Send a message via AIM to webservsol Send a message via MSN to webservsol Send a message via Yahoo to webservsol Send a message via Skype™ to webservsol

Status: webservsol is offline
Not a bad idea but this way you'll limit the competition between hosts of all kind and sizes. As you know Forum posts are shown on search engine so whenever someone search about a certain hosting company he'll find all results including reviews but for starting companies this will cause them trouble and they can't survive. Consider your own business you'll lose selling Reseller Hosting, VPS & dedicated servers. Sometimes new companies have better prices and services than other large and old ones.
 
 
 
Reply
Previous Thread Next Thread


Thread Tools

New Post New Post   Old Post Old Post
Posting Rules:
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Sponsored By: