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  Post #1 (permalink)   10-06-2005, 02:01 PM
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Planning to Upgrade to 3.5.0 anytime soon Art? Or is that Josie's job
 
 
 


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I think the forums should be upgraded to 3.5 aswell
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  Post #3 (permalink)   10-10-2005, 07:52 PM
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According to vBulletin, all templates are considered changed. In addition, hacks on vB 3.0.1 won't work on 3.5 such as the point system we're using right now.
 
 
 


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  Post #4 (permalink)   10-10-2005, 09:29 PM
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In addition, hacks on vB 3.0.1 won't work on 3.5
One of the reasons we are not upgrading. 3.0.1 satisfies us very well. Is 3.5 that different to make it worth the upgrade?
 
 
 


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  Post #5 (permalink)   10-10-2005, 09:46 PM
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Is 3.5 that different to make it worth the upgrade?

In a word, no.

I've never understood this upgrade frenzy.
If the script is secure leave it alone.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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  Post #6 (permalink)   10-10-2005, 10:14 PM
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If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
You can play with it though... in the form of hacks, etc.
 
 
 


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  Post #7 (permalink)   10-31-2005, 11:58 PM
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Well, there are many bug fixes in the new versions. A lot of improvements.

Which hacks are you using that are not available for 3.5? I'd be willing to help with migrating the style to 3.5
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  Post #8 (permalink)   11-01-2005, 12:04 AM
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bleh...upgrading.

As a host, we get requests to upgrade like it's a trend.

Alot of our resellers find it trendy to have the new version of this or that, without thinking of the consequences of upgrading.

Upgrading is nice if it's necessary, or beneficial, but upgrading just for the sake of bragging rights to a new version is not necessarily always a smart thing to do.

We always ask a lot of questions before taking a client's request seriously. If they can't answer them to the point where we find the upgrade necessary, then.....no upgrade, as welike to keep things stable and steady.

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Well, there are many bug fixes in the new versions. A lot of improvements.
The questions would remain:
1. Is HD plagued by the bugs that 3.5 fixes?
2. Are the improvements necessary or just "Oooh look at that cool feature!" improvements?

Like I said, staying up to date is important, but only when it's necessary.
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  Post #9 (permalink)   11-01-2005, 07:55 AM
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WireNine, Mark has pretty much summed up the reason for us to stay at 3.0 for a while. One of the biggest hacks is the reward system. Once we go on 3.5, there will be no more of it, so go figure how you reward members for participation (other than run constant contests).
 
 
 


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  Post #10 (permalink)   11-01-2005, 07:12 PM
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The reward system would be able to continue, but the points would have to start at 0.
 
 
 


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  Post #11 (permalink)   11-01-2005, 09:44 PM
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If people are only coming here for points and prizes then that is a true shame. This community is 100x better than anything out there right now I don't think you should consider points or prizes that we have earned as something big. I for one would not care of my points system was reset to 0, it's the people and content of the site that draws me here.

Personally I would like to see 3.5 implemented as it DEFINETLY has good features and some nice ways to add hacks into the VBulletin easily. It is a drastic change from 3.0.7 from my personal experience and makes things a lot more easy to manage in regards to hacks. If we compare 3.5 to 3.0.x I can honestly say switching will be a lot more beneficial with the new features available. It comes with a nicer updated look for replying and the plugin system makes administrating the forums a lot more simple.

I think maybe you should reconsider this option because it can be much more beneficial by offering more and more things as more plugins are made. I for one would not care for my points being at 0 (even if I had the most) because it isn't about points here, it's about the content and the community. The only thing we have for the rewards system from what I can tell is the ability to post in the Advertisement section?

Just my
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  Post #12 (permalink)   11-01-2005, 10:13 PM
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The only thing we have for the rewards system from what I can tell is the ability to post in the Advertisement section?
Well, yeah... apart from these yummies...
http://www.hostingdiscussion.com/16043-post2.html

Let me know if you change your mind.

Other than that, we will put it once again to discussion and thought. I thank you for such a positive feedback. It is highly appreciated.
 
 
 


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  Post #13 (permalink)   11-01-2005, 10:24 PM
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Those are some nice yummies indeed .

But I would still rather have easier administration for you and your moderators via the plugin system along with newer features for the entire community and still get my points to 0. I think little sacrafices such as points could be made for the better of the community. I mean think about it, you find a neat little hack and all you do is plug it in. There are many more possibilities with an upgrade and the feature system such as that.
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  Post #14 (permalink)   11-02-2005, 08:06 AM
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Senad, this weekend I will make a list of every hack we are going to lose vs gain, so we'll mack a decision then. Thank you again.
 
 
 


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  Post #15 (permalink)   11-02-2005, 08:34 AM
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To be quite honest I don't see all the fuss over VBulletin 3.5.0. Sure it uses AJAX in a big and well documented way however the templating system and modification system for a currently existing forum will be altered considerabley.

If it's a new forum starting up, great, however unless you're willing to pay the price and spend the time sorting it all out, then it will be worth it. Otherwise, if it's not broken don't attempt to fix it
 
 
 
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