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  Post #31 (permalink)   06-21-2013, 11:45 AM
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I can only presume they will be adjusting their processes accordingly in given time.
I think this is true and give them time and they will most likely come up with another solution for web hosting when they find their revenue is down as i know many hosts that use Google Checkout
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Thank you, Alex, for reaching out to Google. Their response supports the statements that Google Wallet isn't suitable as a merchant tool for web hosting services.
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That is not what they said. They said hosting is not a digital good. Of course you will always get the same answer when asking the same question (at least one would hope). Why not follow up with a question like "well, how do I use wallet to sell physical goods?"

Google Wallet for digital goods is formerly known as In-App payments. Web hosts don't use In-App payments as far as I know. No one is claiming you can sell web hosting inside of Angry Birds

They have two APIs: one called Google Wallet for Instant Buy (previously known as Google Wallet for Online Commerce) and one called Google Wallet for digital goods (notice that "digital" and "goods" is not capitalized).

Google Wallet for Instant Buy is "A cloud-based method of accessing and storing payment information, Google Wallet Instant Buy lets buyers purchase physical goods and services on mobile websites and desktop web apps. Buyers can easily access their payment information and make a transaction in a single click or tap. "


Bottom line to date: A host can still use Wallet, as I have already proven time and time again by: (1) Signing up as a Web Host (2) Listing other hosts that use Wallet and (3) providing attachments supporting (1).

Everything on their website, including legal documents support my conclusions. Any web host innocently getting to their site can sign up for Wallet merchant account.

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Just for you I have gone ahead and replied to my contact and asked the very question you said

"how do I use wallet to sell physical goods?"

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Hello Alex,

Thanks for the quick response.

We have partnered with different payment processors to accommodate merchants like you. Since you're offering services online and are also using shopping carts, I would suggest integrating your site with Shopify. The Shopify allows users to manage inventory, edit HTML and CSS code, create coupon and discount codes, and accept online payments. They also offer 20% discount to Google Checkout users. If you want to know more about Shopify, simply click this link: http://www.shopify.com/googlecheckout.


Sincerely,
Jenny

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That is not what they said. They said hosting is not a digital good. Of course you will always get the same answer when asking the same question (at least one would hope). Why not follow up with a question like "well, how do I use wallet to sell physical goods?"

Google Wallet for digital goods is formerly known as In-App payments. Web hosts don't use In-App payments as far as I know. No one is claiming you can sell web hosting inside of Angry Birds

They have two APIs: one called Google Wallet for Instant Buy (previously known as Google Wallet for Online Commerce) and one called Google Wallet for digital goods (notice that "digital" and "goods" is not capitalized).

Google Wallet for Instant Buy is "A cloud-based method of accessing and storing payment information, Google Wallet Instant Buy lets buyers purchase physical goods and services on mobile websites and desktop web apps. Buyers can easily access their payment information and make a transaction in a single click or tap. "


Bottom line to date: A host can still use Wallet, as I have already proven time and time again by: (1) Signing up as a Web Host (2) Listing other hosts that use Wallet and (3) providing attachments supporting (1).

Everything on their website, including legal documents support my conclusions. Any web host innocently getting to their site can sign up for Wallet merchant account.
 
 


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Just for you I have gone ahead and replied to my contact and asked the very question you said

"how do I use wallet to sell physical goods?"
Thanks. But she is suggesting you use Google Checkout with a cart that already has it implemented for you. I think we already know we can use Google Checkout. Maybe you should tell her whmcs is a good cart too

What about Wallet? Make her answer your question. Get her to say there is absolutely no way web hosts are allowed to use Wallet

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Just for you I have gone ahead and replied to my contact and asked the very question you said

"how do I use wallet to sell physical goods?"

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Hi Alex.

As i seem to get replies from a different Google contact i asked the same question, to see if they give any different answers.

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From: checkout-merchant-support@google.com
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 4:00 AM
To: ***********
Subject: RE: [4-1350000001270] Closing your Google Checkout account

Hello Terry,

Google Wallet can no longer be used to sell physical goods. We have no replacement for that, instead Braintree would help you as a solution provider for your business. Please refer to this link https://support.google.com/checkout/.../3080449?hl=en for additional information.

Sincerely,
Eric
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If you have additional questions, please visit our Help Center at http://support.google.com/checkout/sell/

If you received this communication by mistake, please don't forward it to anyone else (it may contain confidential or privileged information), please erase all copies of it, including all attachments, and please let the sender know it went to the wrong person. Thanks.




On 06/21/13 13:15:35 ************* wrote:

Hi

If I am using WHMCS then how can i use Wallet to sell Physical Goods?
notice how he states
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Google Wallet can no longer be used to sell physical goods.
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from that Google link

https://support.google.com/checkout/.../3080449?hl=en

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Is Google offering a replacement product?

No, Google is not offering a replacement processing solution for physical goods and services. We’ve partnered with three premier players in the payments industry to offer alternatives for your eCommerce needs. The links below will guide you to more detailed information about each offering, including negotiated discounts for Checkout users:

Payment Processing: Braintree Payments
Hosted storefront: Shopify
Email invoicing: Freshbooks

We recognize this transition may be difficult; it impacts you and your business. We’re committed to helping you with a smooth transition. While we are unable to offer a direct replacement for Google Checkout, we are continuing to invest in a variety of exciting new payments products to meet real world needs for both buyers and sellers. You can learn more about our recently launched payments products below:

Google Wallet Instant Buy: Quick and easy payments on mobile, desktop, and in-app
Google Wallet Objects: Digital commercial objects and stronger third party issuer-consumer relationships
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What I notice is no one has mentioned or asked about web hosts or the meaning of "internet and networking" products. If you look at my attachments one can sell Time Shares and Airline Tickets too. Other than what is happening with Google Checkout, there are no notices of any changes.


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What about Wallet? Make her answer your question. Get her to say there is absolutely no way web hosts are allowed to use Wallet

Thus the proper question has still not been asked. Web hosts are still using Wallet, the list of excluded products have not changed, and web hosts can still sign up for Wallet without any caveats from Google. So I stick to my story, which is written on the web pages on Google for merchants to read

And no one has accepted my Just Sign Up challenge and post what they see. (Sign up for Wallet, not Checkout)

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A quick summary of the issue with GC and GW

post 1

I understand that you want to know if web hosting is accepted by Google Wallet for digital goods (GWDG). Since it is a physical good, web hosting can't be associated with GWDG.

post 5

I understand that web hosting is a service that allows individuals and organizations to make their website accessible via the World Wide Web. But as per Google, it is a service that is tagged as a physical service.

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This is something Google will not inform anyone to do as Google class web hosting as physical goods and not digital goods.
I have explained earlier that since it is a physical good, web hosting can't be associated with GWDG.

post 29
Web hosting is a kind of service and services are classified as Physical Goods, thus not eligible for Google Wallet Digital Goods. examples of Digital Goods are MP3s, apps, ebooks, coins in game applications.

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Google Wallet can no longer be used to sell physical goods.

Google have stated many times they class web hosting as Physical Goods which they have stated Wallet can no longer be used to sell Physical Goods (web hosting)
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Sorry but that doesn't do it for reasons that should be obvious by now. Hint: Google shutting down Google Checkout on Nov 20, 2013 FURTHER INFORMATION
 
 


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I just read this

https://support.google.com/checkout/.../3080449?hl=en

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Retiring Google Checkout Announcement

On November 20th, 2013, Google will shut down its Checkout product. Here’s how this may affect you:

Merchants selling digital goods may transition to Google Wallet for digital goods
Merchants selling through Google-hosted marketplaces (e.g. Google Play) will be unaffected
Merchants selling physical goods will need to switch to third-party alternatives (see below)
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That's nothing new and its directed at Checkout users, not merchants using Wallet. Its been up there for a few weeks. Nice to see you actually visiting the Google site, however.

Now if I can get you to move from Checkout support over to Wallet support......
 
 


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That's nothing new and its directed at Checkout users, not merchants using Wallet. Its been up there for a few weeks. Nice to see you actually visiting the Google site, however.

Now if I can get you to move from Checkout support over to Wallet support......
but as Google class web hosting as a PHYSICAL service then this part applies when GC closes

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Still don't want to read the Wallet site? Very strange.

Don't want to read the TOS? Very strange.

Don't want to read the list of Excluded Product Catagories? (hint: web hosting is not on it) Very strange.

Don't want to see the list of acceptable catagories? (hint: Internet and Networking is on it)

Don't want to read about other web hosts using Wallet? Very strange.

Nope, you will just keep posting what we all already know about Checkout merchants
 
 


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WHMCS has just made an announcement on this issue

http://blog.whmcs.com/guests.php?t=75294
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Still don't want to read the Wallet site? Very strange.

Don't want to read the TOS? Very strange.

Don't want to read the list of Excluded Product Catagories? (hint: web hosting is not on it) Very strange.

Don't want to see the list of acceptable catagories? (hint: Internet and Networking is on it)

Don't want to read about other web hosts using Wallet? Very strange.

Nope, you will just keep posting what we all already know about Checkout merchants
From my contacts its been confirmed multiple times:

-Web Hosting is not eligible for Google Wallet for Digital Goods

You change the subject on how the Instant Buy product etc... though Google Wallet for Instant Buy is NOT a payment processor, more you integrate your payment solution into Instant Buy - Google does not process any payments through the Instant Buy program.

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