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  Post #16 (permalink)   01-19-2005, 01:21 PM
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You, kid, are an uneducated ass. Who cares about how much money said programmer makes elsewhere - is his time not worth money? You don't know if he uses money from his side work to pay off debts or donate to charity.

My dad gets paid pretty well doing plumbing/pipe fitting. He also does side work. He is the only income for him, his wife, her two kids, and paying off past due debts because of his ex wife's medical bills, vehicle damages, and what have you. Add all that up and without his 70hr manual labor week he wouldn't be able to survive.

So enjoy living under your parents' wing, because when they lift it up and you're expected to fly don't run back to them. Go to a third world country. Your money will go a long ways there.

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Edit: Oh, got a little side tracked. We use MS Access, Excel, and a desk calander. Mark the days, print off the invoices from Excel's Invoice feature, and update the database. Kind of a pain in the neck but it works for us. It's easy, don't have to purchase any more software than what we already have, and just about anyone can do it.

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Without a doubt, hire a programmer from a third world country for 5-10$ an hour. Its setting me back about $40.00 USD for a custom tailored website in flash, php, and asp. Besides, who wants to pay 60$ an hour for a VB freelancer, who also works for 100,000$ a year at a University (read: i dont have a lot of money, just what ive saved from various work, and customized computer cases. Note: I'm a teenager. An intelligent, as well as certified one, but nonetheless, a teenager. No loans, and Ohio law does not allow for teenagers to work a lot. something like 10 hours per week.)
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  Post #18 (permalink)   01-19-2005, 05:41 PM
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Come on guys, don't get so worked up. It won't do anyone any good.
 
 
 


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I apologize. I hadn't eaten all day - just finished a pizza and some bagels off - and when I don't eat I get grumpy. I also was offended by the "3rd world" remark (Come on, that could've been phrased better) as my uncle married a very nice girl from a country with said "title". So, I felt strongly about it. And the fact that he was trying to justify his reasoning by the fact he's a teenager and can't work enough to earn enough money to hire out a real programmer - then maybe he needs to just be a teenager.

Sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings.
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I apologize. I hadn't eaten all day - just finished a pizza and some bagels off - and when I don't eat I get grumpy.
You tell me about it! I get very hasty, my hands shake and I do tend to have an attitude when I don't eat for a while.

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I also was offended by the "3rd world" remark
I actually live in a country that is very close to that remark. (Average income some $220/month, but that's because of a dollar downfall mainly, so most people don't actually feel the change from the $170 it was before.)

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I currently use Modernbill and it works great. Another one Ihave been looking into is Lpanel.
 
 
 


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  Post #22 (permalink)   02-12-2005, 01:40 PM
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I use ClientExec. IMO it has the smoothest, most user-friendly interface among the three (CE, MB and WHMAP). Also I find the CE support to be much better than WHMAP.
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is ClientExec support Advance/Credit payments ficilities??
 
 
 


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  Post #25 (permalink)   03-23-2005, 05:19 PM
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Web Host Manager Auto Pilot!!

We just switched over from Perl Bill and we love it! I cannot wait for version 3!
 
 
 


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  Post #26 (permalink)   03-23-2005, 05:44 PM
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Yes...it has tremendous features, and a nice look. So, we don't need to worry about that minor SMTP issue. Afterall, if we get our IPs blacklisted, we can always afford to bounce back.
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  Post #27 (permalink)   04-16-2005, 09:43 PM
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I used something completly diffrent, and I used all the scripts you guys have talked about. I'm glad I found it.
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  Post #28 (permalink)   04-23-2005, 07:18 AM
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what about for us cheap people that dont wanna spend alot of money
 
 
 


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  Post #29 (permalink)   04-23-2005, 08:50 AM
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what about for us cheap people that dont wanna spend alot of money
Depends on how cheap, I dont think WHMAutopilot is that expensive compared to others I have exp with. Clientexec is a little cheaper, Modernbill isnt TO bad. I guess what it comes down to is it worth spending $15-$25 a month for a leased lic. to automate things and make customer management easier?
 
 
 


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  Post #30 (permalink)   04-24-2005, 07:50 AM
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yea thats true, right now im trying to figure out how to do reucurring billing through cubecart with paypal.
 
 
 
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