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  Post #1 (permalink)   04-06-2009, 07:46 AM
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How would you handle this nightmare?
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Unless you had full backups and servers ready for deployment elsewhere, it would most probably be the end of most hosts, at least with damages that they, may be liable for. Although in this case id expect backup servers would also be seized if the same content was present on them.

Big blow for anyone on those servers none the less.
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I have a hard time visualizing how you move beyond something like this. You wouldn't expect your disaster recover plan to include - what happens if the FBI seizes your servers?
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If someone had included an FBI seizer of their servers in a disaster recovery plan id tip my hat to them, it’s not something you’d really want to happen or even expect. Although if I get a call from Mi5 or the likes from our London DC id probably be in hysterics as would most people. That said I could hardly see it happening, it could be said though that it would depend on the content in this case that the servers are holding.
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I personally don't think that's right. In this case it wasn't the DC that did anything, they simply suspected one of their clients. The FBI should have worked with Core IP rather than against them.
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Unfortunately, I see more of this coming, right or not.
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Unfortunately, I see more of this coming, right or not.
When someone ripped a website of mine about a year ago I didn't see the FBI seize ThePlanet's servers. Piracy, theft, it's all the same. This is exactly why we have to monitor what our clients are doing.. It's one thing to break my TOS, but there's no way I'd let someone put me in this type of situation.
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I think as the news of this raid circulates the Internet today, we'll see a broader picture of what led up to this, and it's consequences. Apparently, there were millions of dollars at stake.
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I think as the news of this raid circulates the Internet today, we'll see a broader picture of what led up to this, and it's consequences. Apparently, there were millions of dollars at stake.
Yeah, I'm sure an FBI employee didn't simply find 1 thing on a client's server and they busted in the next morning.
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What did Core IP do when the FBI showed up? Open the DC doors and tell the FBI, ok go ahead and kill 50 businesses? It is normal to panic in such cases and not to know what to do. But first thing to do is call your lawyer and have him talk with the FBI, have the FBI send him a copy of the warrant and validate the extent of the warrant or at least if the warrant is valid or permits them to do what they (the FBI) are about to do.
I am not a lawyer, but its a very reasonable proposal. Although if they already had the warrant, how much space is left for negotiating? However, among those clients could have been very powerful companies who can sue the government for billions in damages. I am sure the FBI is aware of that possibility.
 
 
 


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I'm not a lawyer either, but if the FBI comes in with a signed warrant, I don't suspect there's any room for negotiating anything. LOL. Add that they also showed up at the owner's home with warrants.
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man,that is a real Nightmare. :O
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That really sucks...
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Agents armed with a search warrant appear to have confiscated all the servers in the facility, which houses gear for about 50 businesses.
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I don't think you'd have to worry about it, as was in this case the owner was taken into custody as well, once your behind bars I doubt your hosting operation is at the top of your list of things to take care of
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