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  Post #31 (permalink)   03-15-2011, 03:57 PM
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AN ILLEGAL SIGNATURE???????????????????????????
A QUESTIONABLE PROVIDER????? A MATTER OF OPINION I AM SURE YOU ARE THE MOST RELIABLE SOURCE HERE. YOU ARE THE CUT ABOVE.

I AM BREAKING FORUM RULES??????????? ODD THAT I HAVE NOT RECEIVED AN INFRACTION.

SCAMS AND DISHONEST OPERATORS?????? CAN YOU PROVE THIS OR IS IT LIBEL???? WHO HAVE I BEEN SCAMMING???? ARE YOU A VICTIM OF ANY SO CALLED "SCAMS" BY ME?

YOUR ATTEMPT TO KEEP THE FORUM HONEST AND ABOVE THE BOARD IS BEING MADE BY TRYING TO DRIVE ME AWAY FROM THE FORUM. AT LEAST THAT IS THE WAY IT LOOKS TO ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I'm certain that people here will be impressed by your outrage.
Capitals for every word. Very mature.

Yes. You did break forum signature rules. That is a fact and any mod here will verify that. Denying it now is pretty silly.
Those are the rules that you agreed to when you signed up. Those are the rules that you accepted and read.

If you feel a libel suit is in order then by all means initiate one. Otherwise save your hollow rhetoric for the kids.

If you choose to leave the forum that is your option.
If you choose to behave like a professional and not embarrass the community you are certainly welcome here, as is every other legitimate host.
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  Post #32 (permalink)   03-15-2011, 03:59 PM
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Perhaps my point is that since you signed up you:

1. Used an illegal signature to try an promote your company
2. Advertised on your site 20k clients when that is not true
3. Advertise the lie of unlimited hosting

I don't really care how much money you put in. A template website offered by a questionable provider doesn't make you legitimate.
You failed to point out any of those successful ventures when I asked before, after you tried to maintain you had those 20k clients.

If you want to do business, fine. Do business.
If you want to be dishonest and deceive and break forum rules as a means to forward that business then this is really not the place.

That is my point.
I have no motive other than to keep this forum honest and above board and to try and keep our industry free of scams and dishonest operators.
Every single shady operation is a black mark on this industry.
Hello Friend,

While we are on the topic of dishonest hosting schemes let me throw one at you here. On your website http://hampshirehosting.ca/ you offer a FREE SITE BUILDER. I would like to know is that free after you purchase hosting or can anyone use the program?????? If it is FREE after the purchase of one of your hosting plans, then can you tell us how you can say it is FREE? Someone had to purchase something to receive it. You also advertise that you can receive one month free!!! Will you offer that one FREE month to a customer that doesnt first pay for 11 other months? There is nothing free pal. It sounds schematic to me. But you know what I will stop because I didnt come to this forum with intent of building up my business while attempting to downgrade another business. Remember one thing pal, he that throws mud loses ground.
 
 


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Although I'm not an AMWAY distributor, I do not characterize their operations or marketing strategies as sleazy, and neither do the courts. They're also not a pyramid scheme.

Providers who offer affiliate programs aren't sleazy either, and no, we don't offer any, but plenty of respected providers on this forum do.

As far as template sites, pleny of successful providers use templates to start out. We're using a highly customized template ourselves.

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What exactly makes them a questionable provider?

Hosting Discussion seems to have gotten a whole lot more abrasive these past few weeks. I hope that's not a continuing trend. Discussion and varying opinions are certainly welcome, but the tone here has taken a dive.
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I'm certain that people here will be impressed by your outrage.
Capitals for every word. Very mature.

Yes. You did break forum signature rules. That is a fact and any mod here will verify that. Denying it now is pretty silly.
Those are the rules that you agreed to when you signed up. Those are the rules that you accepted and read.

If you feel a libel suit is in order then by all means initiate one. Otherwise save your hollow rhetoric for the kids.

If you choose to leave the forum that is your option.
If you choose to behave like a professional and not embarrass the community you are certainly welcome here, as is every other legitimate host.
So you are on the admin team? I appreciate your mercy in allowing me to remain on the forum with my "SO CALLED ILLEGAL SIGNATURE." Can you please paste the rules here as they relate to signatures as I am willing to humbly accept and comply.
 
 


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If all the resellers are "one-day flowers", then where does "Resellers Panel" get the 20,000 customers?

That's a lot of resellers!

Besides jmatos, is anybody else in HD a "Resellers Panel" reseller?
It sounds to me that the other posters here know an awful lot about reseller's panel. I never said I was a "resellers panel" reseller.
 
 


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Nice try junior.
Perhaps you would be better served somewhere else.
Your choice of course.
If you choose to lie about unlimited resources, there is a definition for unlimited (perhaps you could look it up), then more power to you. I'm sure the clients that you lie to will not have an issue with it.


You can continue to embarrass yourself here by taking me on or you may want to choose to approach things in a different manner.
Your tactics will be called out on every legitimate forum until you choose to act in a professional way.
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They get their clients by lying and offering the world.

They offer unlimited resources and encourage their clients to do the same.
They allow the client to use their site and their text to make sure there is minimal cost.

It's nothing more than a sleezy pyramid scheme and the only ones getting rich are Reseller Panel.
They don't give a crap how many people get screwed by their resellers and their dishonest policies.
At what point should I wonder if you have taken your meds today? Seriously.
 
 


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Nice try junior.
Perhaps you would be better served somewhere else.
Your choice of course.
If you choose to lie about unlimited resources, there is a definition for unlimited (perhaps you could look it up), then more power to you. I'm sure the clients that you lie to will not have an issue with it.


You can continue to embarrass yourself here by taking me on or you may want to choose to approach things in a different manner.
Your tactics will be called out on every legitimate forum until you choose to act in a professional way.
It is a matter of opinion friend. I appreciate your feelings in the matter and they are noted.
 
 


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It sounds to me that the other posters here know an awful lot about reseller's panel. I never said I was a "resellers panel" reseller.
So you are not a reseller for Resellers Panel then?
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Although I'm not an AMWAY distributor, I do not characterize their operations or marketing strategies as sleazy, and neither do the courts. They're also not a pyramid scheme.

Providers who offer affiliate programs aren't sleazy either, and no, we don't offer any, but plenty of respected providers on this forum do.

As far as template sites, pleny of successful providers use templates to start out. We're using a highly customized template ourselves.

What exactly makes them a questionable provider?

Hosting Discussion seems to have gotten a whole lot more abrasive these past few weeks. I hope that's not a continuing trend. Discussion and varying opinions are certainly welcome, but the tone here has taken a dive.

The courts don't give a crap about many sleazy schemes.

If you haven't looked at the reseller panel site then come back when you have.
ANY site offering unlimited resources is a lie and a scam. Period. That makes them questionable.
You can talk tone all you like but there is a huge difference between differing opinions and lying.

I have been saying this for the last six years and I will continue to say it.
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Nice try junior.
Perhaps you would be better served somewhere else.
Your choice of course.
If you choose to lie about unlimited resources, there is a definition for unlimited (perhaps you could look it up), then more power to you. I'm sure the clients that you lie to will not have an issue with it.


You can continue to embarrass yourself here by taking me on or you may want to choose to approach things in a different manner.
Your tactics will be called out on every legitimate forum until you choose to act in a professional way.
I would say that you are advertising a lie in your signature line. You say "AFFORDABLE" hosting. Can you guarantee that what you are selling is affordable? How can you back up a claim that something is affordable? What is affordable to you may not be affordable to someone else? Can all people afford your service? So if your company is affordable then you never have a declined credit card through your sign up page? WOW, with prices like yours we could all be rich. I didnt know of a get rich quick scheme until I started looking at your site. Let me post it again so we can drive some more folks over there and see it first hand. http://hampshirehosting.ca/
 
 


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So you are not a reseller for Resellers Panel then?
I take it you are a reseller for resellers panel. It sounds like you know quite a bit about their business structure. I am sorry if things are not working out for you, or have not worked out for you. I dont understand why you are so eager to tear down companies while trying to elevate your own. Remember he that slings mud loses ground.
 
 


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AN ILLEGAL SIGNATURE???????????????????????????

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I AM BREAKING FORUM RULES??????????? ODD THAT I HAVE NOT RECEIVED AN INFRACTION.
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Yes. You did break forum signature rules. That is a fact and any mod here will verify that. Denying it now is pretty silly.
Those are the rules that you agreed to when you signed up. Those are the rules that you accepted and read.
You did not receive an infraction because I decided to give you a second fair chance. Not every rule breaking deserves an unfriendly and a harsh infraction, if we see the potential in members being active. Or would you rather be on a forum that would slap you with an infraction for every violation?

These are your words:
Have you ever listed your business on craigslist?

Even after you were asked to edit your signature and agreed to do so, you didn't do it. I had to go in and edit your signature personally to have it comply with the rules.


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So you are on the admin team? I appreciate your mercy in allowing me to remain on the forum with my "SO CALLED ILLEGAL SIGNATURE." Can you please paste the rules here as they relate to signatures as I am willing to humbly accept and comply.
Yet you didn't.

Here is the rule that you agreed to:

USE OF SIGNATURES:
4.6 Font sizes above 2 are not allowed.

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The courts don't give a crap about many sleazy schemes.

If you haven't looked at the reseller panel site then come back when you have.
ANY site offering unlimited resources is a lie and a scam. Period. That makes them questionable.
You can talk tone all you like but there is a huge difference between differing opinions and lying.

I have been saying this for the last six years and I will continue to say it.
I actually tried to look at their site, but couldn't because it was down. I haven't checked back.
As far as tone - it attributes to the culture of the forum - and I wasn't just referring to discussions of unlimited hosting.
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The courts don't give a crap about many sleazy schemes.

If you haven't looked at the reseller panel site then come back when you have.
ANY site offering unlimited resources is a lie and a scam. Period. That makes them questionable.
You can talk tone all you like but there is a huge difference between differing opinions and lying.

I have been saying this for the last six years and I will continue to say it.
Saying your customers receive a FREE SITE BUILDER after they pay for 12 months of service is questionable to me?

Telling your customers that they will receive a FREE MONTH OF HOSTING after they pay for 11 Months could be questionable also.

Telling everyone through your signature that you offer affordable web hosting is also questionable. Can you prove that all of your customers can afford your service????? Do you ever have a declined credit card? Do you ever have a customer that doesnt renew because they found someone else that was MORE AFFORDABLE?

I think I would clean around my own doorstep first.....then you can adequately clean around others door.
 
 
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