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  Post #1 (permalink)   06-09-2009, 07:04 AM
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With HyperVM's future unknown what are the alternatives?

There seems to be a hole that HyperVM once fill.
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There's many alternatives, but they lack much. There's always Virtuozzo, though it costs quite a bit more. We're all seeing a possible void to fill here. I don't mean to be insensitive(I spoke with Kt quite a few times in the past) but there is an opportunity here for someone to step up and fill his shoes.

That being said, it will no doubt take far more than 1 man to do what he did. http://www.vtonf.com/ looks promising..
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I've been looking for alternatives and this "would" be perfect: http://code.google.com/p/ovz-web-panel/
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You have the option of Xen too.
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You have the option of Xen too.
I've used openvz for a LONG time now and for the last week I've considered my options.. I'm seriously considering developing my own panel Consider the various commands root performs without a panel to control the node(s).. It wouldn't really be that hard to do.

HyperVM had many great features. IMO it overdid some things, yet lacked in other areas.. It seems to me that many developers hardly listen to feedback and give people what they want..

Why not have a panel that launches with a WHMCS module already.. Reloads, boot and usage all from within the client area.. Why not be able to autoprovision a VPS then automatically install the desired control panel?!

I'm what some mite call "an automation freak".. Although it takes longer at first, you save SO much time in the long run when you automate everything that makes sense.

Think at this point I'm just ranting. I guess I can't complain.. "If you don't like how someone else is doing something then do it better yourself".. So maybe one day..
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  Post #6 (permalink)   06-11-2009, 04:17 AM
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Tastes are different and you probably need to test different to understand if that is yours or not
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Well if you go for an automation module inside of WHMCS, keep me in the loop on that

I've used Xen in the past, but we strictly use Virtuozzo at this point in our network. Handles everything the way we want. Throw cPanel or DA into the mix and users have a neat little package.

I had looked at OpenVM in the past but I can't remember why I didn't go that route. I know I was comparing Xen and OpenVM for a long time, but I've never made the move and stuck with Virtuozzo
 
 
 


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I just found this link and thought it might be helpful. It lists all of the OpenVZ control panels.

http://wiki.openvz.org/Control_panels
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I just found this link and thought it might be helpful. It lists all of the OpenVZ control panels.

http://wiki.openvz.org/Control_panels

Yeah, you can check them out and if you find one that's what you need and still supported than go for it. Personally none of those fit my needs, so I'm left doing everything via shell until I can do something about it
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Well if you go for an automation module inside of WHMCS, keep me in the loop on that

I've used Xen in the past, but we strictly use Virtuozzo at this point in our network. Handles everything the way we want. Throw cPanel or DA into the mix and users have a neat little package.

I had looked at OpenVM in the past but I can't remember why I didn't go that route. I know I was comparing Xen and OpenVM for a long time, but I've never made the move and stuck with Virtuozzo
I'm stuck in a strange spot.. I've got VPS nodes deploying today, and I'm not doing and type of panel until I've got the time and can ensure it's a secure solution. I would absolutely love to get a WHMCS module together that supports both openvz and xen, but as I see it that would take roughly 2 weeks to do and I just don't have the time.

There's also the matter of a Virtuozzo module. Everyone at WHMCS' forum has been asking for it for a LONG time. I actually started on one last week. It got put on hold till I can get all my customers back online, but now it's looking more and more like Matt(WHMCS) will be doing a Virtuozzo module, so to finish up mine would be a complete waste of time.
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We are testing xen vps server to see who it can fit with vps web hosting
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Currently, we are thinking of switching too enomaly.com. I have a meeting set up with them tomorrow at 3 to discuss pricing and some other stuff
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Currently, we are thinking of switching too enomaly.com. I have a meeting set up with them tomorrow at 3 to discuss pricing and some other stuff
Looks interesting. I may play around with http://src.enomaly.com/ a bit
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They seem to be stable and way better than HyperVM, but I will have to test them out and see if my first opinion of them is true.
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More and more I'm leaning to Virtuozzo. Yeah, it's expensive compared to others, but you get what you pay for.

I personally never had problems with HyperVM, and I'd still use it if I was certain it would continue to be supported and was secure, but it's hard to say. Ever since the "Vaserv thing" hosts have been dropping it, but why? Is it because there WAS security vulnerabilities?

Many people, including myself have updated HyperVM and verified that it does in fact resolve the vulnerabilities. Vaserv said it was LXLab's fault, and that they updated just before the hack and were still hacked, but "the hacker" said it wasn't a zero-day vulnerability and that he was actually in their network 2 months ago.

Regardless of what the hacker said I think too many people are so easily letting LXLabs be Vaserv's scape goat. 4000 VPS down, what better thing to do to get the pressure off a bit than to blame someone else? Does it matter that Rus' password was "f0ster"? I think it does!

My point is that everyone's saying "HyperVM sucks" and all these bad things about KT(rip), but in reality he was a great developer, especially to do all he did as a 1 man show. And could everyone be making a BIG mistake here? Is it possible that Vaserv is at fault here and we could all be scrambling for an alternative when none is necessary?.. Yeah, it's possible.

Anyway, I think I went on a bit of a rant there. Like many others, I'm still not quite sure what to do, but http://forum.lxlabs.com/index.php?t=...12394&start=0& seems to give a good indication of where the HyperVM project is going..
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