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09-21-2010, 10:07 PM
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What happens if you sell vps without root access,can you still sell it as vps?
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Post #2 (permalink)
09-21-2010, 10:32 PM
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Yes, it's still a VPS as that's the machine you're running. You'll just want to disclose to the user that they don't have root access. This also means that YOU will be responsible for all server updates, script installations etc etc.
Many people who want a VPS also want ROOT access, however there's still a strong market for people that do not want to manage their own machine and pay someone else to do it. A VPS is still a VPS even if you don't give root access. Just like a Dedicated is still a Dedicated.
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09-22-2010, 09:37 PM
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Ye thank you very enlightening in the sense that there is responsabilities like doing server updates ,that I can do but I dont know about the installing scripts to gentry since I want to sell as unmanaged,but my main intrigue was if I still can put adds about it in hd as vps but without root access because I thaught it was prohibited ,you know for that thing they say that if you dont have root access then ur vps is a fake thing ,but still I can advertise like this on hd?
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09-23-2010, 05:49 AM
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A VPS is still a VPS even without root access, however if you don't have experience installing scripts for users and you are not willing to provide root access, you'll either have no signups OR you'll have very angry customers when they find out they can't get anything installed.
I don't recall seeing anything stating that you can't post something on this, however I strongly advise that you review your hosting packages as a server without management and without root access is pretty much worthless to a lot of people.
Is there a reason why you would sell a VPS and not provide root access?
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09-23-2010, 08:50 AM
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As Conor mentioned the root access has nothing to do with the virtual machine itself. You can get it or not. Most people prefer to manage their own machines, but it is true that there are many who choose to go for a managed service.
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09-26-2010, 04:42 AM
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Why would you wNt to start a service like this?
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09-27-2010, 07:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IkY0294
Why would you wNt to start a service like this?
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Agreed - most people that get VPS plans get it for the root access 
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Post #8 (permalink)
09-27-2010, 08:07 PM
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Yes but if I provide a cpane vps optimized,where is the problem if it has the fastest ftp service and ssh access
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Post #9 (permalink)
09-27-2010, 08:56 PM
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A cpanel account with JAILED SHELL is not the same as ROOT access. For the most part a Jailed Shell would only allow a person to do minor things on the server.
The whole point behind VPS is that it's your own environment allowing you to change how PHP operates, loading extra Apache modules, installing Java, sim linking directories, setting up custom scripts, interface with other locations, block IP numbers via a firewall, unblock those that need to be unblocked, etc etc.
If you provide cPanel and a VPS, and you are truely providing them a VPS (and not loading other accounts on there), then there really shouldn't be any reason NOT to provide the customer with root access, afterall, it's THEIR machine.
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09-29-2010, 01:42 PM
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This is one of the oddest threads ever.
You want to provide an "unmanaged" VPS service while at the same time denying "root"access.
I hope this venture is well financed because this is formula for refund after refund after refund.
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09-29-2010, 02:29 PM
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I think it's a case of someone wanting to offer everything to customers in terms of packages (shared, reseller, vps, dedicated) but not really having the resources or knowledge to offer each of them.
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Post #12 (permalink)
09-30-2010, 03:18 PM
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Well I dont think refunds would be the case since Im planning to give free trials too,you know what I mean If they choose to speak snakee jadedery from me it wont suit since they dont have the right to fill their mouth since I havent charged or say so I dont charge first.
The cpanel account that I give to people has all the futures to ban ip addresses but if I give them root access it access my machine stuff and is not independent they view my things ,sure I dont want to think is just a master reseller account sold to me as vps.
Believe me mr handsonhosting.com that Im not selling all those services you say,Im just selling vps and even though this is my first vps you are wrong in the sense that I really have the knowledge to manage a root cpane ,is too easy so much it makes me wonder the service I purchased wasnt truly vps since my clients cant get full root access,anybody know a place where I can buy a vps to resell with unlimited bandwidth,well that can be sold to clients as full root access too?
Thanks for taking ur precious time to respond my thread
Last edited by vegas : 09-30-2010 at 03:22 PM.
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09-30-2010, 03:22 PM
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Ok. I'm completely lost now.
Are you planning to sell VPS or are you trying to sell reseller accounts from a VPS and you don't know if your host has actually provided you with a real VPS setup?
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09-30-2010, 03:50 PM
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Vegas, you really need to be up front on what you're trying to do.
If you are selling a VPS to a user (or giving it to the user for free) then they will want ROOT access.. there's just no way around that.
If you are selling a managed VPS then users will ask you to perform the actions in ROOT for them if you do not give access.
If you are buying a VPS yourself and you're selling a portion of that to people, then you can not claim VPS, you are a shared hosting reseller - PERIOD
If you resell a VPS as a true VPS to a person and they decide to muddle around in the root, that's not your concern, that's on them. You can restore from a backup (you are making backups right?), or you can charge to fix their mistakes.
So, I guess we're all the way back to square one. What are you selling (or giving away)?
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10-01-2010, 09:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vegas
anybody know a place where I can buy a vps to resell with unlimited bandwidth,well that can be sold to clients as full root access too?
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There was an earlier discussion here about unlimited bandwidth for VPS.
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