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  Post #1 (permalink)   11-26-2010, 06:24 PM
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Since we are going out of our minds we are selling a VPS service
at only the half of a buck,yes you dont need to even own one dollar
to have a VPS.
And so you might believe we are really going nuts we are giving
a compleately free of charge 48 hour trial promotion for you to test our services first without any obligations.

We must state that all of our VPS services dont have a full root access ,but hey have many other futures like porno capacity in case you want to make it inthe porno industry.
We also have a very charming uptime that you will be able to test
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  Post #2 (permalink)   11-27-2010, 07:38 AM
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On your site it says you are 10-20 times faster than your competitors.
Can you please provide evidence of this.


The site also claims that 50 cents of every dollar collected goes to green energy research.
This would mean you are only collecting $6.00 per year for a VPS.
Can you tell us what VPS software you are using and where you get your cPanel software that allows you to offer this without losing a lot of money?

Do you have some sort of verification where the green money is being spent?
 
 


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  Post #3 (permalink)   11-27-2010, 08:53 AM
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First of all we give clients what they purchase and whatever we do with the money is our money since we earned it,and wasnt given without us doing something- we gave a product or service in return,if we destine our money to this or any other charity purpose for saying something or to raise funds for example to raise the global knowledge about genre diference or lets say we smply want to destine some money so the playboy girls might put some more baby oil in their bodies during their photo sessions is our problem because is our money,or do I ask what do you do with your money that you earn?.
Whenever you get to be our client maybe we could give you some explanation about our environmental duties why? because you gave us money but meanwhile you got no right and if you feel somehow foolished we dont care as long as we influenced you with the green frame of mind and you are not alone in this world thats why we raise those values since we are all affected by global warming even if it makes you angry we are in this world together.

So anyway if you think we dont do good to nature maybe you can be far better than us to nature and actually prove it to your own self this way you wont feel foolished.

Regarding speed we have tested other vps without root that are too slow we have free trials to test this
 
 


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  Post #4 (permalink)   11-27-2010, 12:19 PM
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Whenever you get to be our client maybe we could give you some explanation about our environmental duties why? because you gave us money but meanwhile you got no right and if you feel somehow foolished we dont care as long as we influenced you with the green frame of mind
Why can't prospective clients ask VALID questions regarding the performance and setup of your service and regarding the green issue you are supporting? What kind of attitude is that??
 
 


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  Post #5 (permalink)   11-27-2010, 01:37 PM
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First of all we give clients what they purchase and whatever we do with the money is our money since we earned it,and wasnt given without us doing something- we gave a product or service in return,if we destine our money to this or any other charity purpose for saying something or to raise funds for example to raise the global knowledge about genre diference or lets say we smply want to destine some money so the playboy girls might put some more baby oil in their bodies during their photo sessions is our problem because is our money,or do I ask what do you do with your money that you earn?.
Whenever you get to be our client maybe we could give you some explanation about our environmental duties why? because you gave us money but meanwhile you got no right and if you feel somehow foolished we dont care as long as we influenced you with the green frame of mind and you are not alone in this world thats why we raise those values since we are all affected by global warming even if it makes you angry we are in this world together.

So anyway if you think we dont do good to nature maybe you can be far better than us to nature and actually prove it to your own self this way you wont feel foolished.

Regarding speed we have tested other vps without root that are too slow we have free trials to test this

While this is an interesting and somewhat incomprehensible rant you still haven't addressed the questions.

My profits go my bottom line. I make no claims otherwise.
You on the other hand are claiming to be donating 50% of your profits to green technology.
It should be easy for you to present evidence of this so people don't think you are just lying to gain new customers.

You say you tested other servers. Where is the evidence? You make a claim and potential clients are going to want verification. Where is it?

If you want to buy baby oil for playgirls that is fine. I don't really care. If you are using it as a way to generate business then you should be able to prove you are actually buying said oil. Otherwise people may think you are a fraud.

You also failed to state what VPS operating software you are using which is important to potential clients so they will know how they will control their VPS, especially since you don't offer root access.
Without the software all you are offering is a reseller plan.

Perhaps you could have a friend translate for you so you can provide a coherent answer. I think the hosting community deserves to know that companies are operating above board.
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  Post #6 (permalink)   11-27-2010, 09:49 PM
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I have a number of issues, and I'll be glad to spend the $0.50/month to test them out too

#1) Where is the TOS/AUP & Privacy Policy?
#2) Do you have an SLA
#3) Where is your business located - contact information needed
#4) What methods of support do you offer and what is the turn around time?
#5) You state on your support page that the hosting and support is unmanaged. If I need an .htaccess file modified, will you do it? How about shell/cron scripts?
#6) Are you providing WHM on the server so I can create extra accounts?
#7) Do you provide shell at all. You have it listed that you do not provide full root access, but do you provide jailed shell?
#8) what if I use a shell script (PHP/CGI) - is that allowed?
#9) "Half of every dollar goes for research in Bio Diesel and Global warming" - What company do you contract with for the research (or donation)?
#10) in your package you state "fm2000 fire suppression system" - when was the last inspection? Will you provide a copy of the certificate?
#11) UPS Backup Generator - again, last inspection date? Certificate of inspection? How often is it tested? What's the downtime between power loss & power kick in?
#12) You state that you provide a "PHP5 Payemnt process API" - which one?
#13) will you execute shell scripts if I provide the commands?
#14) Do you provide IRC ability?
#15) How much mail can I send per day?
#16) If you don't provide WHM, and you don't provide shell, I'll need you to run custom compiles of kernels and apache. Any problem with that?
#17) Will you install Java & the JDK toolkit?
#18) What's your policy on file storage and backups?
#19) What's your policy on formats and reboots?
#20) Do you monitor the machine & services? If Apache hangs, how soon before your staff responds to restart it?


For side notes:
#1 - the website is the hardest one I've had to read in a very long time. green on red on teal with some changing background plays havoc on the eyes!
#2 - Once again, spelling and grammar come into play "you dont have to pay nothing" is not going to win any sales - but then at $0.50/month, it could be very interesting the terms of support.
#3 - The pages cut off as your support section at the bottom of the page overwrite the content on the page.


I'm anxious to spend my $0.50 so I can use the 1850GB of bandwidth, run Java and test the benchmark of the server operating specs!
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  Post #7 (permalink)   11-28-2010, 10:38 AM
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I think I have addressed the green related stuff in a very gently way,we dont want to use or name companies since we are not trend followers neither support other comanies since we have a voice of our own and also a power by owr own effort too in order to demonstrate this we have over the years carried a camppaign against tabaco cigar that just ended but that we are very proud of since the harvest from it was plenty since many dramatic changes have happened in the world like prohibiting smoking in public places and the adding of varied warning lierature of the damage caused by cigars in the very own packages.
We dont have that much audience by ourselves,you could say about 50 people every day without advertising or the help of any other internet media,network or any other internet thing but Im sure it was pretty enough to cause significant influence over the tabaco matter and its evolution to redundant changes like mentioned.Since you always ask proofs well we are going to initiate a new campaign aside with our global warming duties and we invite you to follow us over the years to see if our influence matters or not in this world.

I dont have nothing to say to blue but get a grip man

Mr Handsof hosting.com if you want to play against us go ahead we dont care but you only see what you want to see ,if you really cared about the issues that you claim you would have gone to the site because we have tos and all the required elements so dont be ridiculous because we are traders and the darkness from internet dont affect us because we are not kids so if you really cared you would have asked for the 48 hours trial and we already would have given you an account and you already would have the answers to all your questions but the world is full by negative people like you

We are real tradres and are opened to whatever it comes our way to face it be negative or positive,the only objectiveness we care is that if we was fake we wouldnt have a 48 hour free of charge trial,because we know by far that a negative guy could bring some viruses to our server and cause some damage but we are true profesionals that are here to prove it ,if you read in our site we promote you upload to ur trial account so you test our quality ,please test this things that are the ones important in hosting.
 
 


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  Post #8 (permalink)   11-28-2010, 10:49 AM
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vegas,

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You seem to be treating this unfairly. It's just that what your trying to say doesn't make sence as HandsOnHosting and Blue pointed out.

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Mr Handsof hosting.com if you want to play against us go ahead we dont care but you only see what you want to see ,if you really cared about the issues that you claim you would have gone to the site because we have tos and all the required elements so dont be ridiculous because we are traders and the darkness from internet dont affect us because we are not kids so if you really cared you would have asked for the 48 hours trial and we already would have given you an account and you already would have the answers to all your questions but the world is full by negative people like you
Flaming isn't tolerated here. If you read the rules:

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  Post #9 (permalink)   11-28-2010, 10:56 AM
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I said the right thing without insulpting anyone you are wrong
 
 


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  Post #10 (permalink)   11-28-2010, 10:57 AM
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We have plenty of resources and dont have indeed the need of offending anyone as it is proved in the reply
 
 


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  Post #11 (permalink)   11-28-2010, 11:26 AM
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we respect ideologies even if they difer from ours but have the right to have our own opinion
 
 


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  Post #12 (permalink)   11-28-2010, 12:18 PM
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Vegas, I *DID* go to your website, which is why I raised the questions to you.

I did read your TOS which doesn't state the answers to the above questions - this is why I asked them here.

I also informed you that the pages are cut off when viewing the Terms of Service and other pages as your support area at the bottom of the page overrides the information. It's also quite hard to read due to the colors.

So, once again, I urge you to answer the questions as outlined above. Not only will they help ME make a decision in operating through your facility, but may help others in choosing you too.

I need to know about the unmanaged solution and how you will handle the compiling of custom kernels etc.

Again, this is not me picking on you, this is me finding out the information for your company in which I could then utilize your services. Right now you are refusing to answer the questions which indicates that you do not want me to sign up an account.

Do you not want my business?

As for a tobacco campaign - I'm against it. I smoke cigars daily, so I would not support a company that is campaigning to eliminate public smoking or raising the price on tobacco.

I asked about the green energy and the organization that you support so that I can choose if I wish to support YOU in your campaign. There are many "green campaigns" that donate to organizations that are badly managed and less than 10% of the money donated actaully goes to research.

RedCross has a similar issue when it comes to AID in foreign countries - they spend so much on overhead and salaries that only a fraction of the money donated actually goes to the cause. I am performing a intelligence on the company/charity that you are supporting BEFORE spending money with you.

So, back to square one - please answer the questions proposed so that we can make a decision to host with you.
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  Post #13 (permalink)   11-28-2010, 12:44 PM
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I think I have addressed the green related stuff in a very gently way
You didn't address a single thing. Nothing.
Frankly I am led to believe that you are dishonest and have no intention of making any donations to green technology.

Prove me wrong.
If not then bow out. We do not need this kiddie crap in our industry.
 
 


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  Post #14 (permalink)   11-29-2010, 08:04 AM
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Am I missing something Vegas? I'm not seeing your 50 cent promotion on your site.
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  Post #15 (permalink)   11-29-2010, 08:14 AM
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One thing that hasn't really been mentioned, is the fact that offering a free trial will typically attract and result in a lot of abuser signups. Is that something you are willing or prepared to deal with?
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