I don't mind helping the new guy out either. At least they have a shot of doing a decent job. Heck if they do really well they might just "remember" you and help you out in a time of need. Do unto others as you would have them do to you while originally a religious phrase still has many noble aspects in today's society and good deeds do eventually return to you it just takes some longer than others.

I have to agree that I don't mind helping out someone that actually is serious about starting a host business but when I get comments from people that just wake up and say, Hey.. lets start a hosting business it does make the blood boil.

Oh well, they will most likely wash out in 6 months anyways

jason

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yes. I'll help out the new guy, however, I will usually make him read around 30-40 pages of pointless articles. They mean nothing, but look to be something. I then ask him a question or 2 on it in live chat (so I cant hear tapping).

At least I then know that he is determined to do this.

Spot on Blue. Could not have said finer words myself. As we all know, we were all new at some stage.

Its not about "Oh here comes more competition". Its about keeping a industry looking good from the outside in.

Exactly. My company has beein in the hosting business since 1994. We were one of the Silicon Valley's first web hosting providers. Where are we on the Google rankings for web hosting? Number 292.

It is extremely frustrating as many of these new one man operations are ranked higher than our well established hosting company. But it no longer matters to the customer how much expertise you may have in your field. All that matters is the price. In the end, the one man operations always win.

To be honest when i started up my first webhost (unable to name because of legal reasons as i recently sold my half of the company to my buissness partner) i didnt have a clue, i just wanted to setup a reliable host. But with perserverance I managed to setup a reliable host which started straight away with its own server.
Anyway i am currently working on my second host, as I know the mistakes we made last time I understand what I need to do to succeed.

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Because "anyone from the streets with a few bucks can start a web hosting company" is why some new hosting companies don't make it big, all thanks to a bunch of teenager who want to make a few quick bucks and than screw over all clients making them believe that every new host is not trustworthy.

Starting a web hosting company is easy but building a real legal registered business and keep it alive on your on dedicated server is the real challenge.

Very, VERY well said!

I certainly don't mind helping the new guy out either (hey, I was there once too), but the people who've been asking me for help are asking for a whole lot more than advice.. I don't think I'm going to go about installing everything and troubleshooting their systems for free out of the kindness of my heart

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well effectively the first person who discovered webhosting worldwide probably never knew what they where doing so what i am saying is you have to start somewhere.

Web host worldwide increased more than twise only in 2004. But i believe cometition is necessary.

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Simply put:

Hosting option A: Large company, reliable, increased cost to host with them.
Hosting option B: Cheap (possibly a DBA if lucky) --> take your own risk.

If you want to host a website about your pet spider, go with a cheap hosting package for 0.99/month.

Of course, if you happen to be a website like google, having your own data center is more helpful.

Requirements of customer --> how much customer is willing to spend, how much of a risk they are willing to take that the service won't be reliable, and also what budget they have.

Websites about spiders vs. eCommerce sites vs. eCommerce sites for companies with an established customer base...

I guess my favorite line from large companys was always "If its not expensive, it can't be good" and from individuals "Cheap is good".

*sigh*