Egypt Without Internet..

HostLeet · Post #1 (**permalink**) 01-31-2011, 01:16 PM

With all the recent anti-goverment riots taking place in Egypt right now, it seems internet access to and from Egypt has been shut down.

I wonder how bad this is affecting all of the hosts and datacenters in Egypt, and everyone else for that matter. It's a bit ironic that we were discussing about what we would do without internet just the other day, here in HD.

SenseiSteve · Post #2 (**permalink**) 01-31-2011, 01:20 PM

Well, I suspect all the hosts and datacenters in Egypt are taking it very hard right now, but I suspect there's very little commerce being transacted in any industry there right now.

HostLeet · Post #3 (**permalink**) 01-31-2011, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve-Hostirian

Well, I suspect all the hosts and datacenters in Egypt are taking it very hard right now, but I suspect there's very little commerce being transacted in any industry there right now.

WOW Steve! It took you only 4 mins to reply to this thread.. You really do eat, breathe, and sleep HD don't you?

But on a serious note.. I hope the situation improves soon, and without any more violence.

hosthop · Post #4 (**permalink**) 01-31-2011, 02:30 PM

Yes, we all need to take a minute and reflect how lucky we all have it, and sometimes how we take it for granted.

And if you know anyone over there let us hope they get out safely without getting involved in their revolution. Lets hope the people get what they deserve...

SenseiSteve · Post #5 (**permalink**) 02-01-2011, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by HostLeet

WOW Steve! It took you only 4 mins to reply to this thread.. You really do eat, breathe, and sleep HD don't you?

But on a serious note.. I hope the situation improves soon, and without any more violence.

Oh, you're so funny.

Actually, on last count, I'm on 59 different forums. I do spend the majority of time on WHT, HD and TalkFreelance though.

I always imagined there would be more peace in the world now that we're into the year 2011.

Dedi.cated.IT · Post #6 (**permalink**) 02-01-2011, 12:16 PM

But its funny how they left up the one network there that connects them to the stock market...

Might make people think twice about supporting the bill being pushed in our government for the president to have a "internet kill switch".. If America was to revolt against our government you can bet they would most likely do the same as Egypt.

HostLeet · Post #7 (**permalink**) 02-01-2011, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve-Hostirian

Oh, you're so funny.

Actually, on last count, I'm on 59 different forums. I do spend the majority of time on WHT, HD and TalkFreelance though.

I always imagined there would be more peace in the world now that we're into the year 2011.

Steve, you are a busy man for sure!

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Originally Posted by Dedi.cated.IT

But its funny how they left up the one network there that connects them to the stock market...

Might make people think twice about supporting the bill being pushed in our government for the president to have a "internet kill switch".. If America was to revolt against our government you can bet they would most likely do the same as Egypt.

Couldn't agree more with that..

XeHSean · Post #8 (**permalink**) 02-01-2011, 02:07 PM

Out of curiosity, are there any big datacenters or hosting providers based out of Egypt?

VL-Adam · Post #9 (**permalink**) 02-01-2011, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by XeHSean

Out of curiosity, are there any big datacenters or hosting providers based out of Egypt?

CityNetHost.

Are they going to get their internet access back soon?

ldcdc · Post #10 (**permalink**) 02-01-2011, 07:35 PM

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But its funny how they left up the one network there that connects them to the stock market...

I hear that it has been shut down too now.

Odd question: should ISP and hosts refund their customers for the days when they didn't receive service, or does the situation qualify for "act of God"?

(I don't mean to imply that Mubarak is some sort of deity.

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handsonhosting · Post #11 (**permalink**) 02-01-2011, 11:32 PM

It'll be interesting to see how refunds/credits are handled in this situation. I wouldn't know what provision of a contract something like this would fall under other than possibly something along the line of "beyond their control" type blankets.

Here's an interesting excerpt form the Blizard/Word of Warcraft terms of service. I'm sure we'll see these added to other terms of service agreements (I know it's being added to ours)

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Force Majeure.
Blizzard shall not be liable for any delay or failure to perform resulting from causes outside the reasonable control of Blizzard, including without limitation any failure to perform hereunder due to unforeseen circumstances or cause beyond Blizzard's control such as acts of God, war, terrorism, riots, embargoes, acts of civil or military authorities, fire, floods, accidents, strikes, or shortages of transportation facilities, fuel, energy, labor or materials.

Found another that stated the following;

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We will not be held liable whatsoever for any damages consequential or otherwise to your site, person, co-located equipment or company for server down-time in and including network maintenance, sever errors, acts of god, viruses, terrorism, security breaches (physical or otherwise), fire, or any such activity that disturbs the network.

And total choice hosting that has the following in their policy;

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You hereby acknowledge and agree that TotalChoice Hosting will not be liable for any temporary delay, outages or interruptions of the Services. Further, TotalChoice Hosting shall not be liable for any delay or failure to perform its obligations under this Agreement, where such delay or failure results from any act of God or other cause beyond its reasonable control (including, without limitation, any mechanical, electronic, communications or third-party supplier failure).

Others have pasted things such as;

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This uptime guarantee is also not applicable if the service interruption was caused by external issues such as Acts of God, Wars or any other natural or unnatural events that **************** cannot directly influence.

I'm sure the ISPs have this little loophole covered but I know we (hands-on) did not have such a clause, but it's being sent to a lawyer tomorrow for review and insert.

HostColor · Post #12 (**permalink**) 02-02-2011, 05:34 AM

It is very messy in Egypt right now and there is a lot of uncertainty. You know that foreign citizens are getting out of the country and despite that army and police said no force would be used against those participating to demonstrations, there it is possible clashes to turn to mini civil war, if Mubarak refuse to step down informally or formally...

Trust me the last thing to care about in such a situation is Internet access. Internet access is a privilege of the economies which function normally.

PS: Internet access has actually been restored in some sites.

SenseiSteve · Post #13 (**permalink**) 02-02-2011, 09:16 AM

In our TOS - Excluded Events -

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or (g) riots, acts of God, terrorism, civil disorder, governmental action, natural cataclysm or other occurrences beyond the reasonable control of HOSTIRIAN.

It's unfortunate, but you have to protect yourself from this stuff.

Allwebsuite · Post #14 (**permalink**) 02-02-2011, 11:43 AM

i am also very sad about this one ,

.....What to do ?

Exmasters-Mark · Post #15 (**permalink**) 02-03-2011, 01:48 AM

You know, Egypt even doesn't seem to be the last country to revolute... Europe is also trembling.

The governments try to hide problems from people's eyes, making the fixing of them more complicated. Some day it will put our world down.

Internet is the way of communication. Since no communication - no information - no problem. But the problem is still there becoming more severe day to day.

Worth thinking over.. I guess