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  Post #61 (permalink)   03-29-2012, 07:41 AM
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True. I use Host Tracker tool.
Nothing can be 100% trusted.
But Host Tracker is pretty reliable.

You can only do your best, remember.
It is better to watch for issues yourself.
Just use the tracking tools as a backup.
Host tracker is one that 1 of their stations stated they could not reach my server for 16 hrs so therefore according to host tracker my server was down for 16 hrs which was 100% untrue and i provided them with evidence but they stated that they were correct and my DC and my evidence were wrong.
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  Post #62 (permalink)   03-29-2012, 07:49 AM
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Well if they were to do that to me then I can assure you my agreement with Host Tracker will be terminated quicker than it was setup. LOL!

I am truely sorry to hear that.
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Well if they were to do that to me then I can assure you my agreement with Host Tracker will be terminated quicker than it was setup. LOL!

I am truely sorry to hear that.
this is exactly what i did
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  Post #64 (permalink)   04-05-2012, 12:22 AM
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100% uptime , I have not seen it. There have been months and months, but for a web host to offer 100% uptime, not sure. I may be wrong
 
 
 


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Nop, that's not possible because servers get heated up or sometime they went down for maintenance but reputed hosting companies ensure approx 99.9% server uptime.
 
 
 


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Nop, that's not possible because servers get heated up or sometime they went down for maintenance but reputed hosting companies ensure approx 99.9% server uptime.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ5MA685ApE

They seemed to manage it for 7 years and counting.
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Wow thats crazy, not too shabby
 
 
 


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They seemed to manage it for 7 years and counting.
How did they keep it connected to the Internet underground?
 
 
 


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My day job is in a big Fortune 500 company. We do have systems that have 100% uptime.
  • Mainframes. That's what they're designed for. Heck, about 80% of the kernel is error-checking, everything executes through multiple paths, RAM is RAID, etc. Pricetag: millions + a lot of people.
  • HP Nonstop. We retired this but it was genuinely 100% available, even while being patched, etc. Of course, it's ridiculous expensive, a unique OS, etc. Pricetag: millions.
  • Oracle RAC. Take a node out, patch it, put it back in, all day long. Designed for 0% downtime. Pricetag: DB + software is about $60K per CPU list price So, fewer millions but still millions.
  • And even if you take the DC off line with a meteor strike or something, we'd still be up because we have metro DR, then continental DR on top of that. Pricetag: many millions.

And guess what...not only is this stuff fabulously, ridiculously expensive, its also fabulously, ridiculous complex. We have a big IT department. More millions!

You won't pay for that with $5/month plans

Really, getting to 95%-99.9% is not that hard. The vast majority of our systems have failover protection and failover only takes a few minutes even with a big database to recover or something. Most of our systems are not in the "needs 100%" tier - if an app is down for 5 minutes once every 5 years because it has to failover, that's not a big deal for most. For some it is.

Going from 99.9 to 99.99 or 99.999 is a huge jump for each 9, in both complexity and cost.

I believe it is possible to engineer for 100%, but it's extremely expensive and you can only do it if you control everything from start to finish. Within our datacenter, yes, we can do it. Within our WAN, yes - and it's really expensive to maintain a second datacenter, etc. To someone in China looking at us...no, because we can't control the network in between.

BTW, a few years ago, an operator panicked at a smoke alert, ripped off the "are you really really sure you want to do this" tape over the emergency power-off switches (to be used if the building is on fire or something) and pushed a button...and the DC went completely dark. There is no way to protect against that, some suicidal nut, etc.

Fundamentally, the deeper you get into the nines, the more control over the gear and environment you need to have. I think you can still have an excellent service - either a VPS provider who can move your node around live, or having a failover cluster if you're running your own gear, etc. (though really how many do that?) But there are limits.

BTW, from my perspective, what really is 99.99% uptime? Most hosts say "excluding routine maintenance"...great, but I'm still down

I'm working on a hosting company. I've selected a top VPS provider, and if there is a problem with the server they can move me to another node. Inevitably I'll need to have some short maintenances to upgrade a web server or MySQL or something. I think that's the best I can provide. Anything more would require either a SAN ($$$$$) and cluster, or some kind of heartbeat/DRBD/etc.

Well. That post got carried away
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No, it's not possible under any circumstances as far as I know.
 
 
 


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They seemed to manage it for 7 years and counting.
I want a host like that! Talk about dedication!
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How did they keep it connected to the Internet underground?
They must of got a signal, who knows!

Clever work though
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No web hosting can assure 100% server uptime, thats why they offer 99.9% server uptime which seems to be possible.
 
 
 


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No web hosting can assure 100% server uptime, thats why they offer 99.9% server uptime which seems to be possible.
a host can achieve 100% uptime, but this depends on a timeframe

1 day, 1 week, 1 month, 1 year etc.
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Like all things in life nothing is 100% guarantee. Anyone that understands technology knows that even the best data centers experience down time and any company that promises 100% uptime is more of a sales gimmick to gain customers.

Take all promised uptime with a grain of salt I would say. Always make sure you do your own backups no matter if your provider does a daily backup or not.
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