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  Post #16 (permalink)   09-21-2012, 11:58 PM
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most 'top' 'best' hosts pay to be in these lists ( the more you pay the higher you are placed.

I added our site to a review site and within 24 hours got an email from the site admins to day they could place us in the top 5 if we were willing to pay $1,000.
neither to say i told them to remove our site from their review system
Agreed, these charts of hosts which are available on the web are mostly paid and have no connection with reality
 
 
 


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Forums and independent reviews could tell about particular hosting company how good is it, not a Top 10 lists...
 
 
 


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Forums and independent reviews could tell about particular hosting company how good is it, not a Top 10 lists...
I would disagree with forums being a true check as very few forum users would open threads to praise a host, most open threads when thery have issues with a host.

also reviews on a hosts website may not be true as a host can sometimes fake these.
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what makes a company one of the top then in the hosting business
The size of their bank account. These top 10/hosting review sites are affiliate or revenue driven. If you speak out against any of the top 10, your account will get suspended or closed or there will be a run on positive reviews to drown out the negative.
 
 
 


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I would disagree with forums being a true check as very few forum users would open threads to praise a host, most open threads when thery have issues with a host.

also reviews on a hosts website may not be true as a host can sometimes fake these.
I agree to this. And if a hosting company's forum is riddled with complain threads, at least that tells us the company does not attempt to hide or mask the truth. I have known hosts that remove such complain threads from forums and some hosts run client only forums so that potential clients are not turned away by looking at their public forum.
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if a hosting company's forum is riddled with complain threads, at least that tells us the company does not attempt to hide or mask the truth.
I could name some host where their forums are full of complaints, not because they are not attempting to hide this fact, but mainly because they dont seem to monitor their own forums.

Also look at WHT it is riddled with complaints about hosts and very few praising hosts.
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I 100% agree about the affiliate nature of top 10 lists. But let me shed some light on that industry from my 13 years experience:

If you search in Google for Top 10 web hosting you will get 138,000,000 results 99% of which are affiliate thin site with crappy contents and lots of affiliate links. And they depend 100% on SEO to get their traffic.

Now the 1% remaining are further divided:

1- sites that has been around for a while and have strong relations with lots of hosts, hence they were able to collect big number of user reviews. However, although you can see a lot of reviews but user rating is NOT reflected in the top 10 list. So still the top 10 list is driven by affiliate commission or advertising fees.

2- Now the other remaining part is rather honest and trying to change this monkey business and really care about users. The problem is those sites are less visible because they are honest and thus has weaker relationship with hosts.

I will mention for example hostjury.com everyone knows who is running this site and knows they are trustworthy

Also ReviewsGurus.com a site that I'm personally running for 4 years now trying to stand by the user side. How do you know this is different? Simple:
  • try to post a review & rating about a host and see how the rank will change accordingly in the next GuruScore update (which is every night).
  • And the hosts that are paying for a top placement are marked expectantly as "Sponsored" and their GuruScore remains as is. providers tried so hard to pay to get a higher score but they couldn't (you can ask around about the GuruScore)
  • You can easily find a webhost that is in the top of the list that doesn't pay commission at all! only because it's a good host.

I'm not trying to promote my site here but I thought to shed some light about this mysterious niche.

My two cents!

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Top 10 companies is rather a subjunctive standpoint IMHO.
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ReviewsGurus.com a site that I'm personally running for 4 years now trying to stand by the user side. How do you know this is different? Simple:
  • try to post a review & rating about a host and see how the rank will change accordingly in the next GuruScore update (which is every night).
  • And the hosts that are paying for a top placement are marked expectantly as "Sponsored" and their GuruScore remains as is. providers tried so hard to pay to get a higher score but they couldn't (you can ask around about the GuruScore)
  • You can easily find a webhost that is in the top of the list that doesn't pay commission at all! only because it's a good host.

I'm not trying to promote my site here but I thought to shed some light about this mysterious niche.

My two cents!

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Well, I like to believe whatever you saying but can't because I can see the highest bidders at your FIRST LIST not only that I found <http://www.hostpapa.in/?transaction_id=10217ea21964a1d6c7267c76a1fb4b> Well, If I take it's just your RANKING Style.

Then explain this - At your site BEST WINDOWS HOSTING

97% - softsyshosting
93% - HostDime
92% - Winhost

-This RANK is unbelievable if anyone use even HostDime or Winhost. But when I took a closer look it make seance - hosting[dot]reviewsgurus[dot]com or reviewsgurus[dot]com is promoted by softsyshosting LOL! Now everything clear right.

Anyway.. there is nothing like top 10! It not even existed what existed is Advertisers brains how the put that to in-front of billions of people.
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I will mention for example hostjury.com everyone knows who is running this site and knows they are trustworthy

Also ReviewsGurus.com a site that I'm personally running for 4 years now trying to stand by the user side. How do you know this is different? Simple:
  • try to post a review & rating about a host and see how the rank will change accordingly in the next GuruScore update (which is every night).
  • And the hosts that are paying for a top placement are marked expectantly as "Sponsored" and their GuruScore remains as is. providers tried so hard to pay to get a higher score but they couldn't (you can ask around about the GuruScore)
  • You can easily find a webhost that is in the top of the list that doesn't pay commission at all! only because it's a good host.
How can you claim HostJury and ReviewsGurus to be anywhere close to being trustworthy? How can you state that you stand by the user side when neither HJ nor your website does any kind of verification of reviews? Where is the authenticity of those reviews? Any company can send an army of their clients (or paid writers) to these sites and get positive reviews listed tomorrow, which completely discredits the score system. An "expert review" is nothing more than a summary and carries no value to me as a potential client. A sign up process in general is very much the same with every company, so what kind of long-term experience can you really take from it?

So I am not sure how you can claim that "we test each product thoroughly and give high marks to only the very best". Can you share with is what this testing process consists of? Apart, of course, from opening an account when the company is aware of it.

Let's look at this one in particular:
http://hosting.reviewsgurus.com/revi...round-120.aspx

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Reliability
I found SiteGround’s network and server hardware to be extremely reliable. I’ve not had a single instance of downtime caused by network issues or server maintenance. Very reliable!

Uptime
I use a premium service uptime monitoring tool and have not experienced any downtime to speak of with SiteGround. I’ve found their network to be as rock solid as their support team.
How did you test their reliability and update? What software did you use? Can you provide the logs for that? How long did you have an active account for?

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Support from SiteGround can be found via an online help desk or a toll free telephone number. On average, SiteGround has responded to all of my questions within ten minutes and has gone out of their way to assist me whenever I have called on them.
How many questions did you ask them? What kind of questions? Did you save the screenshots of those tickets that you can share with us to see what response times were and how they were answered?

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Billing
I purchased my hosting plan with a credit card and chose to pay by the year. I was not billed for any services I had not ordered and my bill was accurate and well detailed.
What I, as a consumer, want to know is not how you paid for an account (with a credit card or by PayPal), but whether you had any issues with getting a refund according to their money-back guarantee policy and how long did it take them to process it. For that, of course, you should have sign up anonymously with a company (without letting them know) with your real credit card and then seek a money-back for any kind of technical issue you've experienced, or just a full refund if it was within their 15-30 day money back period.


I just went ahead and posted two fake reviews on random companies to HostJury and ReviewsGurus. Both reviews were posted instantly, no questions asked. At least HostJury tries to claim they "verify URLs" (which they don't because I didn't specify a correct one). ReviewsGurus doesn't do anything at all.

So with all due respect, named websites are nothing more than a part of the overall "top 10 list" noise, driven by affiliate programs.
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How can you claim HostJury and ReviewsGurus to be anywhere close to being trustworthy?
most likely as ReviewsGurus is his own website and if i bother to do some deep checking he will also have links to Hostjury.

I only see him pushing/advertising his own website
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What a good review did not know there was so much to top ten list, I am trying to add my company to as many of these list as possible, maybe some day I can get in on the top 10
 
 
 


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maybe some day I can get in on the top 10
well i dare say if you have the Money you could most likely be ranked #1 in most of these lists within 24 hours. or just google a 10 ten list script and you will most likely find a script to set up your own top 10 list.
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Well, I like to believe whatever you saying but can't because I can see the highest bidders at your FIRST LIST not only that I found <http://www.hostpapa.in/?transaction_id=10217ea21964a1d6c7267c76a1fb4b> Well, If I take it's just your RANKING Style.

Then explain this - At your site BEST WINDOWS HOSTING

97% - softsyshosting
93% - HostDime
92% - Winhost

-This RANK is unbelievable if anyone use even HostDime or Winhost. But when I took a closer look it make seance - hosting[dot]reviewsgurus[dot]com or reviewsgurus[dot]com is promoted by softsyshosting LOL! Now everything clear right.

Anyway.. there is nothing like top 10! It not even existed what existed is Advertisers brains how the put that to in-front of billions of people.
I don't understand what you mean by reviewsgurus.com is promoted by softsys?? our website in fact is hosted by SoftSys because it is our windows hosting choice - and that's reflected in the GuruScore, and we are paying them as a normal customers! So please clarify.

As for WinHost and HostDime, the Score is based on our test and research, if you have any bad experience with them please submit your review to let people know about your experience, cuz the score will be changed to reflect your rating. In the efforts to make the reviews validated please use this new review process: http://beta.reviewsgurus.com/add-review.aspx?cid=95

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well i dare say if you have the Money you could most likely be ranked #1 in most of these lists within 24 hours. or just google a 10 ten list script and you will most likely find a script to set up your own top 10 list.
Here is my challenge to everyone: I CHALLENGE anyone of you by any how to get to the top of the list by paying money to ReviewsGurus.com or change the GuruScore for a fee.

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