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View Poll Results: Is cloud-powered Unlimited Hosting the future of this industry?
Yes, most definitely! 8 25.81%
Possibly, but only if the cloud network is truly capable of handling it. (ie. 500+TB of disk) 11 35.48%
No, unlimited will always be a marketing scam, no matter how advanced the technology becomes. 12 38.71%
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  Post #1 (permalink)   05-09-2013, 11:53 PM
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Previously, unlimited was a term used by website hosting providers to describe a service with no artificial limitations in place, and rather than to publicly display the actual specifications of the server itself, they hide the limitations deep within their terms of service and acceptable usage policy.

The secrecy of the actual limitations and the ability for small hosting providers to easily claim to offer unlimited services is the reason the 'unlimited' term has been ripped apart by web professionals throughout the years, as quite simply, there is no such thing as a hard drive capable of storing an infinite amount of data.

However, with the recent introduction and popularity of cloud hosting services, which allows hosting providers to easily increase the power and capabilities of their network, is the skepticism towards the 'unlimited' host still rightfully deserved?
Now that we're entering the age of the cloud, what is your stance on the whole 'unlimited' situation?
Do you believe that cloud-based unlimited hosting is the future of this industry?

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Huh, how do you edit the poll? I made a minor spelling mistake.

I intended to say "of" and not "if". Sorry about that.
 
 


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  Post #3 (permalink)   05-10-2013, 10:21 AM
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Looks like a moderator edited it for you

The unlimited hosting gets a bad rap, and rightly so. I'm one of those that rip it apart any chance I get, and yet at the same time, we offer unlimited bandwidth on our hosting accounts.

We had experimented with the words "not limited", but we saw an increase in confusion and a drop in rankings and traffic. The reality is, our bandwith is NOT limited, only the disk space is. Putting on the server that we have 1GB network cards and access to a data pipeline of 2TBs connection between centers etc. Unlimited is just much easier to say.
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Unlimited nowadays became trendy word and customers even think that it is a sign of reliability because big known hosts use this words in their plans, so if we want to participate in competition we should try to develop our offers and provide more resources with plans to reach this unreachable point of unlimitation
 
 


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  Post #5 (permalink)   05-11-2013, 02:31 AM
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Looks like a moderator edited it for you
Nope, the mistake is still there.
No big deal, though. The poll serves its purpose.

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Possibly, but only if the cloud network is truly capable of handling it. (ie. 500+TB if disk)
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I believe unlimited hosting is OK as long as the fair usage policy doesn't restrict it too much. If a site gets suddenly popular it doesn't be taken down just because the host isn't capable of providing what the customer has paid for.

It's hard to compete against unlimited because you never know what the limits really are. That's also a problem for customers while choosing the best host unless the resources are really unlimited (which is very unlikely).
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I believe unlimited hosting is OK as long as the fair usage policy doesn't restrict it too much. If a site gets suddenly popular it doesn't be taken down just because the host isn't capable of providing what the customer has paid for.

It's hard to compete against unlimited because you never know what the limits really are. That's also a problem for customers while choosing the best host unless the resources are really unlimited (which is very unlikely).
If all resources are really unlimited then thats bad management for an unlimited host. To offer unlimited space and bandwidth you would need to set other limitations in place (other resources) to ensure quality performance.

At the same time you may also get other resource limitations with non-unlimited hosting providers depending on where you shop.
 
 


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Nope, the mistake is still there.
No big deal, though. The poll serves its purpose.
I honestly do not see where the mistake is...
 
 


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I honestly do not see where the mistake is...
Art, just found it

the second poll question

Possibly, but only if the cloud network is truly capable of handling it. (ie. 500+TB if disk)

should be

Possibly, but only if the cloud network is truly capable of handling it. (ie. 500+TB of disk)
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Some people play fast and loose with the term, that's my main problem with it. "Unlimited" anything is like offering something for "free". There's no such animal.
 
 


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My hope is unlimited hosting will go away as it is a scam.
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Some people play fast and loose with the term, that's my main problem with it. "Unlimited" anything is like offering something for "free". There's no such animal.
I don't see the relation to offering something free and unlimited hosting.

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My hope is unlimited hosting will go away as it is a scam.
Nope not a scam - if you go to a local pizza shop and choose one of their "all-you-can-eat" packages is that a scam also? Thats unlimited potential food at one fixed price.
 
 


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if you go to a local pizza shop and choose one of their "all-you-can-eat" packages is that a scam also?
It would be if the shop only cooked one pizza per hour, or threw you out after eating your third pizza for breathing too much air whilst eating it or some other reason hidden deep in the T&C's...

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Nope not a scam - if you go to a local pizza shop and choose one of their "all-you-can-eat" packages is that a scam also? Thats unlimited potential food at one fixed price.
even "all-you-can-eat" places will have some sort of restrictions/limits set, otherwise you could go in at 9am and stay in their until they close at midnight eating whatever you want throughout the day. If everyone did that they would soon be out of business
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Nope not a scam - if you go to a local pizza shop and choose one of their "all-you-can-eat" packages is that a scam also? Thats unlimited potential food at one fixed price.
All you can eat is not unlimited though. If you changed unlimited to unmetered then the comparison works. To take this comparison one step farther. Most unlimited if not all have another limit an inode limit. If all you could eat had a calorie limit, then the comparison would work. No all you can eat places that I have been to limit the amount of calories.

Why don't you just say the space and bandwidth is not metered or say no limit as then it would be more legit. Because you can never have unlimited, even with quantum computers. There is a limit you just do not have a hard limit.
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