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  Post #1 (permalink)   11-04-2014, 12:54 AM
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Compare to Shared Hosting i think VPS hosting is best Because Each client will have separate IP and client can use the resources competently.where as in shared hosting both IP and resources are shared among the clients.
 
 
 


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I agree but it does take quite a bit of testing and learning before you can take your website to production level on VPS without assistance from the web host. Also remember if you do not harden your VPS servers they can be easily compromised by hackers and rendered unusable if not well monitored. Sucks to wake up in the morning to a surprise to see your VPS ran out of memory 5 hrs ago and the MySQL database failed or Apache stopped serving HTML and Google now thinks your site is malware. Now we can use software-defined-networking to create a redundant cluster of VPS or cloud instances which can easily be load balanced and monitored automatically and traffic redirected should a problem arise with any one node offering peace of mind somewhat.

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I agree but it does take quite a bit of testing and learning before you can take your website to production level on VPS without assistance from the web host. Also remember if you do not harden your VPS servers they can be easily compromised by hackers and rendered unusable if not well monitored. Sucks to wake up in the morning to a surprise to see your VPS ran out of memory 5 hrs ago and the MySQL database failed or Apache stopped serving HTML and Google now thinks your site is malware. Now we can use software-defined-networking to create a redundant cluster of VPS or cloud instances which can easily be load balanced and monitored automatically and traffic redirected should a problem arise with any one node offering peace of mind somewhat.
In your case just get a Managed VPS, then hardening etc. can be done by the server provider. what you describe can also happen if you are on shared hosting, but you have no control.

I have both managed and unmanaged VPS and never had any issues you describe.
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Not really sure what this thread is all about. You cannot compare those two products just generally because you don't have the factors to compare them by. VPS is better for what? What is the project at hand? If we are talking about small and/or personal websites VPS is a bit of an overkill and Shared hosting is perfectly fine for the hosting part of things.

I would have to disagree with some of the argumentation too. If you don't want to share your IP you can just get a Dedicated IP even on Shared. Also, you are still sharing resources on a VPS, just with a significantly lower number of other clients. And in no way you are using the resources on the server completely.

That being said, of course the VPS would be better in the likes of it being a higher end product with more freedom (but also requiring more knowledge). So its like comparing a new Ferrari with an old Ford. If you compare them (as they are both cars), of course the Ferrari would be better. But does it mean it is more affordable? Or that anyone can drive it effortlessly? Its the same case here
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Not really sure what this thread is all about. You cannot compare those two products just generally because you don't have the factors to compare them by. VPS is better for what? What is the project at hand? If we are talking about small and/or personal websites VPS is a bit of an overkill and Shared hosting is perfectly fine for the hosting part of things.

I would have to disagree with some of the argumentation too. If you don't want to share your IP you can just get a Dedicated IP even on Shared. Also, you are still sharing resources on a VPS, just with a significantly lower number of other clients. And in no way you are using the resources on the server completely.

That being said, of course the VPS would be better in the likes of it being a higher end product with more freedom (but also requiring more knowledge). So its like comparing a new Ferrari with an old Ford. If you compare them (as they are both cars), of course the Ferrari would be better. But does it mean it is more affordable? Or that anyone can drive it effortlessly? Its the same case here
I agree with you. However hosts can provide some facilities to simplify going with VPS. For example, like us, they can offer free first-time configuration. But for resources, I'm not agree that it is shared with others. There are virtualizors that allow you to offer completely dedicated and isolated resources such as VMware. Using these virtualizors you can offer exactly the sold amount of resources in an isolated environment so when you allocate 1GB RAM, its guaranteed that the VPS can use whole 1GB at any time. However, I'm agree that dedicated resources does not guarantee 100% uptime for the website as the VPS can go out of dedicated resources. Additionally its not mandatory to use VPS to get dedicated resources as in a shared environment you can allocate dedicated resources by using CloudLinux which offers complete isolation between users. However the amount of resources you get in a shred hosting powered by CloudLinux is much less than what you get on a VPS.
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Compare to Shared Hosting i think VPS hosting is best Because Each client will have separate IP and client can use the resources competently.where as in shared hosting both IP and resources are shared among the clients.
False. What you are referring to as shared hosting allows for separate IPs for each customer. Moreover, VPS hosting is a form of shared hosting since each vps shares the same hardware and bandwidth with other vpses
 
 
 


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Thats true VPS just has virtually assigned RAM and processor from clustered Dedicated server resources, but still its much much better than shared hosting as their is no much involvement with other customers. Also you have root access to custom requirements of modules can be satisfied easily which is not possible on shared hosting.
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.... but still its much much better than shared hosting as their is no much involvement with other customers. Also you have root access to custom requirements of modules can be satisfied easily which is not possible on shared hosting.
That's not the issue. My post merely invalidates the specific reasons given by OP for why vps is better than shared hosting.
 
 
 


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I have to agree with the @Collabora that the reasons given by the OP have nothing to do with whether a VPS is better than shared hosting.

As a general rule, if you are not comfortable acting as a server admin a VPS is never better than shared hosting for web hosting.

"Managed" VPS/server is a misnomer at best, and advertising gimmick at worst. Getting a "managed" VPS does not in any way guarantee that the server will perform properly or be any more resistant to hacks than an unmanaged server.

It takes considerable time to configure, optimize and harden a server and more time every month to properly manage a VPS or dedicated server. "Managed" providers do not spend that time because it is not cost effective to do so for the small extra charge for "managed" services.

Just one example:

I'm willing to be that there is not one "managed" VPS provider that reviews your log files on a regular basis. Management 101.
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well its just like everything in life.

someone may think a VPS is best while
someone may think Shared is best

just like

someone may think Heinz Beans are best while
someone may think HP beans are best

or someone may think a Ford is best while
someone may think Renault is best

everyone has different views and opinions
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Yes, VPS hosting is best as compared with Shared Hosting. With VPS Hosting plan, you get dedicated resources like RAM, CPU space along with root access. Also you have benefit of using dedicated IP for your website. VPS hosting is similar to dedicated server
 
 
 


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Yes, VPS hosting is best as compared with Shared Hosting. With VPS Hosting plan, you get dedicated resources like RAM, CPU space along with root access. Also you have benefit of using dedicated IP for your website. VPS hosting is similar to dedicated server
That is only an opinion is the grand scheme of things, yes VPS is better than shared, but to some people they may think Shared is best, as i stated in my earlier post everyone has different views and opinions
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I think alot depends on what you are hosting.

1. if you have a site that gets few visitors most of the time, shared hosting is probably more cost effective.
2. if you have a site that gets very busy, but only for short periods, then shared hosting is probably more performent.

Some of our new shared hosting servers have 256GB and even 512GB of RAM (we like to cache everything) and 20 to 40 CPU cores, the allocation of memory that a given user is given will perform way better on a shared hosting machine than giving the individual a VPS with the same memory.

The LVE environment that CloudLinux offers, is almost identical to having an OpenVZ VPS. (After all CloudLinux, is an "altered" OpenVZ Kernel)

Since we changed exim to send and receive email through the IP address on which the domain is hosted, a dedicated IP gives you almost every advantage of a VPS, without the management overhead, or the overhead of the OS or DB cache memory, yet still allows you to select with version of PHP, and which modules you have loaded.

Unless you are using very funky software or need privileged access, or you site is busier than a shared host can tolerate, then I would argue that a VPS is just something you want, rather than need.

We sell VPSs, but only with a minimum of 2GB, and 4GB if you want a control panel, otherwise you would be better off on the shared hosting platform. (and it's the 2GB servers we get the most "performance related" tickets for; strange....)

Our main issue with VPS is that customers want to do everything with too little memory.
To save $5, they would prefer to move memory I/O to disk I/O, then wonder why nanseconds to milliseconds (100,000 times slowet seek rate) and a 10,000+ times slower transfer rate slows down their site.

So unless you have some admin experience, or access to someone with admin experience (which may be a managed/semi-managed VPS) it's probably not of benefit.
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Its better, compared to shared hosting yes, although dedicated is much better.
 
 
 


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Shared, VPS or Dedicated?which one is best? Answer is every one is best , its depends on customer requirements, which types of business you want to handle.....
 
 
 
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