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  Post #16 (permalink)   10-15-2017, 06:01 PM
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It's not that, it just weird how they just hiked it up so much. Someone even claimed of being with them for 12 years and axing them. Which seems to me that they won't even grandfather the older customers to begin with.
They don't care about their customers - they care about money. They know that it's a pain/a lot of work to migrate from their platform to another and that more people will simply eat the added cost than will leave over it.

Even if a percentage of their clients leave over the price hikes enough of them will stay that it will be a net gain for them.
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  Post #17 (permalink)   10-15-2017, 06:16 PM
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They don't care about their customers - they care about money. They know that it's a pain/a lot of work to migrate from their platform to another and that more people will simply eat the added cost than will leave over it.

Even if a percentage of their clients leave over the price hikes enough of them will stay that it will be a net gain for them.
The move isn't that hard with migration features found in Cpanel and a few other commercial hosting panels correct?

The only "real" problem I heard if your running on Windows server OS. But as far as Linux goes, people are just packing their bags.
 
 
 


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The move isn't that hard with migration features found in Cpanel and a few other commercial hosting panels correct?
It's more than just the migration itself. Let's say you're a Plesk host and your clients are used to Plesk and all of your documentation is written for Plesk. Furthermore your staff are familiar with and trained on the usage of Plesk.

There's a lot more to it than simply making the change. Re-tooling your documentation, re-training your staff, and then helping your customers understand the changes/differences and how to make use of a totally new control panel for which they may or may not have any familiarity at all.

So yes I am sure there are those running Plesk on Linux that are migrating to cPanel - but I am sure there are a lot of providers that it's not so simple a task to completely change their underlying control panel.
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It's more than just the migration itself. Let's say you're a Plesk host and your clients are used to Plesk and all of your documentation is written for Plesk. Furthermore your staff are familiar with and trained on the usage of Plesk.

There's a lot more to it than simply making the change. Re-tooling your documentation, re-training your staff, and then helping your customers understand the changes/differences and how to make use of a totally new control panel for which they may or may not have any familiarity at all.

So yes I am sure there are those running Plesk on Linux that are migrating to cPanel - but I am sure there are a lot of providers that it's not so simple a task to completely change their underlying control panel.
That's life, if a business cannot be ready to make changes then they cannot withstand the ever changing climate of the industry.
 
 
 


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That's life, if a business cannot be ready to make changes then they cannot withstand the ever changing climate of the industry.
That's a bit generic. I'd argue that most quality providers are willing and ready to make changes. That said changing basically the entire platform is not a small change and not something that most providers are prepared for.

I mean let's say cPanel disappeared tomorrow - what would providers do? Do you think cPanel providers are prepared to change to another panel? I'd venture to argue that most haven't even considered it.

It's always good to try and plan for everything even things you don't think could happen but there is a point where you're spending energy planning things that are so unlikely to happen that you could better spend that energy in other ways.
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That's a bit generic. I'd argue that most quality providers are willing and ready to make changes. That said changing basically the entire platform is not a small change and not something that most providers are prepared for.

I mean let's say cPanel disappeared tomorrow - what would providers do? Do you think cPanel providers are prepared to change to another panel? I'd venture to argue that most haven't even considered it.

It's always good to try and plan for everything even things you don't think could happen but there is a point where you're spending energy planning things that are so unlikely to happen that you could better spend that energy in other ways.
Although unlikely it still a change that a provider has to undergo. If they wish to remain in the active market.

So if Cpanel takes a dump tomorrow, well that means providers whose are ready and willing to venture and put a change in place are the ones that will be able to withstand such.

It's just one of the risk factor that a provider has to consider.
 
 
 


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Although unlikely it still a change that a provider has to undergo. If they wish to remain in the active market.
Not necessarily. You're assuming their margins are so thin that such a price increase would break them. I'd venture to argue if their margins were that thin - they're not going to be around long either way.

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So if Cpanel takes a dump tomorrow, well that means providers whose are ready and willing to venture and put a change in place are the ones that will be able to withstand such.
Sure - and if the internet were to take a dump - what now? Are those providers also prepared to change to Internet V2? There are somethings that there are worth planning for and then others that are more than likely going to be a waste of time planning. It's all about risk and mitigating said risk.

That said Plesk is still Plesk - it hasn't gone anywhere it's just gotten more expensive. The company's financials will dictate whether increasing prices, shifting control panels, or doing nothing at all are what need to be done.

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It's just one of the risk factor that a provider has to consider.
Sure - and there are risks worth taking the time to attempt to mitigate and then risks that are so unlikely that taking the time to plan ahead for them doesn't make sense.
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  Post #23 (permalink)   10-17-2017, 09:24 AM
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Plesk can be used for Linux and Windows but I prefer cPanel.
 
 
 


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I like cPanel as it's usable and has user-friendly interface.
 
 
 


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  Post #25 (permalink)   10-18-2017, 05:41 AM
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Overall cPanel is better in many ways and I like using it too.
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This probably has been asked by many. What is the difference between cPanel or Plesk? Which would be easier to use in terms of managing it.
cPanel is used with hosting service based on linux platform, where as plesk panel is used with hosting service on windows platform.
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cPanel is used with hosting service based on linux platform, where as plesk panel is used with hosting service on windows platform.
that is how we use it, and i am sure 90% of hosts use it in this method.

But in reality, even in Windows Plesk is not really needed, there are other tools out there that can work
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It's not that, it just weird how they just hiked it up so much. Someone even claimed of being with them for 12 years and axing them. Which seems to me that they won't even grandfather the older customers to begin with.
Yep, I'd actually went to check the pricing of Plesk and I must say, they increased a lot.
 
 
 


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Yep, I'd actually went to check the pricing of Plesk and I must say, they increased a lot.
Indeed and these "works" because as one already mentioned not enough people will be willing to make changes. Based on their requirements and such.

That is why one must be aware of such and what options exists at every turn. That way they don't get themselves into "vendor locked in" so much that the vendor could charge you as much as vital organ just to keep your business "online".
 
 
 


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  Post #30 (permalink)   11-03-2017, 12:14 AM
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cPanel is best for managing server hosting services like vps hosting. Cpanel works only with linux servers while Plesk works with both i.e. linux servers & windows servers.
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