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  Post #16 (permalink)   02-02-2016, 12:44 PM
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dont forget cpanel is normally $15 on its own and WHMCS $18.
unmanaged with cPanel and whmcs isnt common is it?
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unmanaged with cPanel and whmcs isnt common is it?
well the actual VPS is not much as the charge $5 for cPanel and $10 for WHMCS.

harder to find a host offering WHMCS now.

I know direct i was paying just under $20 for WHMCS for branded as i was charged VAT
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Depends if managed or unmanaged.
Let's compare it as "apples to apples" so a managed VM would be similar to a reseller account.
 
 
 


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Let's compare it as "apples to apples" so a managed VM would be similar to a reseller account.
Yes, but giving you more control over what you add to the server
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Yes, but giving you more control over what you add to the server
That is true indeed, but just making it aware that a VM ownership is beyond the VM itself and is the "kick factor" in why it costs vastly more than a quality reseller hosting plan.

A better way to apporcah such is to start reselling then upgrade to a VM/dedi when it going to break even/start saving you money.
 
 
 


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A better way to apporcah such is to start reselling then upgrade to a VM/dedi when it going to break even/start saving you money.
yes as you also need some basic knowledge to run a VM/VPS, then it is best if starting out as a web host to start with a basic reseller account to

1) Gain experience in the hosting industry.
2) Gain a steady clientbase.
3) Gain a good reputation.

only then should you consider moving up to a VM/VPS and then if you can get a managed server this then gives you the knowledge that if you need some assistance with an issue you have some at hand.
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Let's compare it as "apples to apples" so a managed VM would be similar to a reseller account.
Hehehe Interesting LOL. Ok I must say though that managed VM still gives you more expressive powers over your server than reseller accounts.
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If you have a reseller with us, you get a dedicated IP address as standard.

You can have us change the reverse DNS and the "EHLO" string for that IP in exim, so that effectively all your domains hosted on that IP appear to be on their own server.

Usually we recommend changing the reverse DNS to mail.<yourdomain>.<tld>

Unfortunately, you can still do a RIPE or ARIN lookup and see that we own the IP range, but most customers do not do that!
**This is the case with a VPS also.**
If they are this fussy, they will probably be want to be doing everything themselves anyway.
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Usually we recommend changing the reverse DNS to mail.<yourdomain>.<tld>

Unfortunately, you can still do a RIPE or ARIN lookup and see that we own the IP range, but most customers do not do that!
**This is the case with a VPS also.**
If they are this fussy, they will probably be want to be doing everything themselves anyway.
Well as it is whenever you want to go fully professional a dedicated server is the solution. I think in this you are already doing good enough for reseller plans.
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With Reseller Hosting it's not possible but you can have your own nameserver where as for VPS, Dedicated and Cloud you can set your own
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Providers can do a simple thing to whitelabel things as much as possible. It is mentioned above and I agree with this solution. A hostname and a domain combination might work to whitelabel things a little.

E.g. server3.cpanel-severs.com:2082

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This cpanel-servers.com domain must have nothing to do with the server provider. I know some providers are doing this and helping resellers to hide things a bit.
 
 
 


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Providers can do a simple thing to whitelabel things as much as possible. It is mentioned above and I agree with this solution. A hostname and a domain combination might work to whitelabel things a little.

E.g. server3.cpanel-severs.com:2082

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This cpanel-servers.com domain must have nothing to do with the server provider. I know some providers are doing this and helping resellers to hide things a bit.
yes but a reseller cant do this, it has to be done at server level.

i do this with my servers. i have a domain i use for my server hostnames that has no link to my hosting business.

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server1.cpanel-severs.com:2082
server2.cpanel-severs.com:2082
server3.cpanel-severs.com:2082

and the domain has a wildcard SSL attached to it, so all server are SSL secured.
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yes but a reseller cant do this, it has to be done at server level.

i do this with my servers. i have a domain i use for my server hostnames that has no link to my hosting business.

E.g.
server1.cpanel-severs.com:2082
server2.cpanel-severs.com:2082
server3.cpanel-severs.com:2082

and the domain has a wildcard SSL attached to it, so all server are SSL secured.
Attaching a wildcard DNS is a nice idea. Because users are afraid of browser warnings and might think that login page is insecure. Some hosts miss that point.
 
 
 


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and the domain has a wildcard SSL attached to it, so all server are SSL secured.
A good practice that is.
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Some hosts miss that point.
simple because some hosts are not willing to pay the $40 for a wildcard ssl
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