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  Post #31 (permalink)   04-21-2013, 09:07 AM
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We shouldn't all just attack HostGator because its now an EIG brand, many other factors come into play when considering a company going down hill, you have to remember the same management team etc... are still in place at HostGator running HostGator as normal (unsure of how much influence EIG has behind the scenes but generally things seem to have stayed the same with the exception for struggling to keep up with growth).
Since Brent O. is not anymore, there Hostgator won't be anymore what was before, the problem is on our days companies are hiring diploma not people with knowledge (schools are not really what were before). I was a Hostgator customer for years with dedicated servers but right now they are good for Wordpress sites not for serious projects. Other words is a big company but for small projects.

This is just my opinion.
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Since Brent O. is not anymore, there Hostgator won't be anymore what was before, the problem is on our days companies are hiring diploma not people with knowledge (schools are not really what were before). I was a Hostgator customer for years with dedicated servers but right now they are good for Wordpress sites not for serious projects. Other words is a big company but for small projects.

This is just my opinion.
Oh HostGator would never be the same without Brent I agree, it was very easy to get in touch with Brent almost felt like a personal company for such a size.

My point was I don't believe their problems today are due to the fact EIG acquired them. I think this would have happened anyways, maybe with Brent he would have handled it differently (cut marketing earlier like before to invest into getting talent into the doors) though who knows.
 
 
 


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OK, I was hoping the EIG buyout would not hurt my long term reseller host, but they are going downhill quick. Two email blacklists because of my IP, Google block due to another account on shared server, now 30 minute wait time since they charged me for a domain name that I transferred to another registrar. May be looking for another reseller account soon, hope it is not an insane pain to transfer.

It doesn't necessary mean that all the EIG hosting providers are not reliable.

Ip blockings, hacks and other issues happen on all types of servers and sometimes they are caused because of the site software which was not updated in time or because of the simple passwords set for the FTP and email accounts.
 
 
 


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OK, I was hoping the EIG buyout would not hurt my long term reseller host, but they are going downhill quick. Two email blacklists because of my IP, Google block due to another account on shared server, now 30 minute wait time since they charged me for a domain name that I transferred to another registrar. May be looking for another reseller account soon, hope it is not an insane pain to transfer.
That is always the problem on shared servers, if someone on the server sends out spam and the IP gets blacklisted this effects everyone on the IP. you could get yourself a dedicated IP on a shared server, so therefore if the your ded IP gets blacklisted then its your doing, but you are not effected by the main servers IP being blacklisted.
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That is always the problem on shared servers, if someone on the server sends out spam and the IP gets blacklisted this effects everyone on the IP. you could get yourself a dedicated IP on a shared server, so therefore if the your ded IP gets blacklisted then its your doing, but you are not effected by the main servers IP being blacklisted.
This is false

Reallocation of an IP does not clean up its bad reputation. Moreover the one IP may be part of entire block of IPs with bad reputation. Thus, advice “You do what you want, if you get blocked it’s your fault" is inappropriate since the guy who had that dedicated IP before you may have followed that advice. A lot of ISPs but a lot of weight on domain reputation these days -- in that case it doesn't matter what IP you have, and if you have a good domain reputation "you can take it with you."

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This is false

Reallocation of an IP does not clean up its bad reputation. Moreover the one IP may be part of entire block of IPs with bad reputation. Thus, advice “You do what you want, if you get blocked it’s your fault" is inappropriate since the guy who had that dedicated IP before you may have followed that advice. A lot of ISPs but a lot of weight on domain reputation these days -- in that case it doesn't matter what IP you have, and if you have a good domain reputation "you can take it with you."
this show you know nothing bout web hosting

shared hosting shares a single IP address ( say 100 sites), if 1 of them sites sends out spam and the IP gets blacklisted then this will show for the IP for the 100 sites.

if you have 1 of these sites and then get a clean dedicated IP then the blacklist will no longer effect your site as you are no longer on the shared IP.

then its up to the host to locate which site had the IP blacklisted and get rid of that site and then to contact which RBL blacklisted the IP to have the IP unlisted.
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That just shows you what you know about email hosting
 
 
 


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It also depends which blacklist you get put on. I know from my ips getting blocked that some times the mail server gets blocked and some times the individual spammers ip gets blocked. Also some times the domain it self gets blocked. it depends which block list it is on.
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Personally, I avoid all EIG hosts. They offer 'unlimited' features which I never think is right and don't have an overly good reputation and have slow support (generally).

I use reputable hosts for the services I need, that have good support when it's (rarely) needed.
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It also depends which blacklist you get put on. I know from my ips getting blocked that some times the mail server gets blocked and some times the individual spammers ip gets blocked. Also some times the domain it self gets blocked. it depends which block list it is on.
Yep. There's one primary public one that a lot of places use called Spamhaus, and they actually maintain a number of different lists. Some of them are:
  • lists of virus-infected machines
  • lists of home computers that shouldn't be sending email directly to the server
  • lists of IP addresses that are directly under control of the spammer
  • there are also IP addresses that they've sent spam from, that can be fixed/de-listed by ISP

There are also a number of lists controlled by the spam filtering companies and those tend to be private, in that you have to be a customer of that company in order to access that list.
 
 


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I do think Hostgator was a better company under Brent, but I haven't seen a trend, at least in current reviews, that they're going downhill.
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I do think Hostgator was a better company under Brent, but I haven't seen a trend, at least in current reviews, that they're going downhill.
The only main difference I have noticed is:
  1. That "personal" feeling has gone (as Brent was always up for a chat / engage with clients)
  2. HostGator is growing to fast vs their hiring & training capabilities

Of course some improvements has been made under EIG such as domain management is now automated (previously they manually handled domains with no real automation in place) among other things.
 
 
 


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I've never been that impressed with hostgator, I've had an account there for almost a year when it was starting to get really big and it just wasn't that nice. High server loads, not enough support, long waits for things to get done, etc. I really don't see much of a difference now from people I've talked to about it.
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I totally agree. When a company founder leaves - its never a good thing. Personally once a company is aquired its all about profit and not the customers. You many want to look elsewhere.
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  Post #45 (permalink)   06-09-2013, 10:36 AM
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Personally once a company is aquired its all about profit and not the customers.
May be you personal view, but not always the case.

We have taken over companies where we wont not see any money from them clients for many months.

We have also taken over clients from resellers who could not pay their hosting fees and we would terminate them, buts its not their clients fault their host could not pay their bills.

In our book, clients come first and profit second.
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