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  Post #31 (permalink)   08-18-2017, 04:48 AM
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if we are providing good service then nothing to worry about dispute. I use Paypal and had no issues
I agree too, i use PayPal for years now but i won't recommend to any one,
What if customer raises dispute @179th day of the service?
On these cases the chances are very less on sellers favor,
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I agree too, i use PayPal for years now but i won't recommend to any one,
What if customer raises dispute @179th day of the service?
On these cases the chances are very less on sellers favor,
The fact with paypal is to work with them and join their scam list as they are geared up for scammers to use.

i.e. you can set up a Paypal account and a fake website offering downloadable items for sale (but you dont have anything for sale), make buyers pay via paypal and when a buyer pays you and gets nothing and they dispute in paypal then all paypal will do is close the case in sellers favour as it is a non tangible item.

Now if that is not them aiding these scammers then i will eat my hat
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Paypal never cares about our TOS. For paypal client is always right, no matter what they do or complain, and we (hosting companies) are always scammers or cheating the client. Forget it! We still offer paypal because the market demands, however we are changing to Stripe and recommend to new clients to use stripe.
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Paypal was expensive and it has too many issue but the biggest issue I was using my paypal since 3 months I got good orders and I was having no chargeback, they limited my account saying that I have violated there aup, after long emails they told me that I have not violated aup but they consider my business as risky and they will not do business with me and they blocked my paypal balance for 6 months.

I was truly disappointed with them since there are thousands of hosting businesses and they have no such issues.
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I've never had any huge issues with PayPal, however I hate the transaction fees;

2.9% (I believe) + $0.30 Per Transaction

That's very expensive for budget hosting providers, then again banks also charge fees.

The major issue I've heard of is Accounts with huge income being frozen for weeks.

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To be fair I have experienced extremely low % of disputes. especially for cheap services, the buyer simply won't bother.
That being said it's nearly impossible to win a dispute as a hosting provider.
But usually, if you provide good service disputes are rare.
I think even though the fee is very high the extra customers you get is worth it.
 
 
 


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Because paypal is not giving sellers protection on hosting.
Usually person is using your hosting for >180 days then they dispute. And in lot of cases you will lose.
I agree with you
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Only real issue i had with Paypal was their ability to cancel subscriptions without permission or notice from client or host and then when you call they say its a glitch and will never happen again, so you have to get your client to set up a new subscription and then several months down the line it happens again and you get the same response from paypal.

I now setup a braintree (owned by PP) account, this then allows you to get Paypal to enable Reference Transactions on your PP business account and then you can now set up clients using paypal billing agreements ( this allows you to submit a request for payment at anytime and if a client orders another service you dont need to set up a new subscription as the system will request the actual invoice total when due no matter what the total is. also if they order a new service rather than issue an invoice and then wait for client to receive this and then pay it, you can request the payment on invoice generation.
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I hate the transaction fees;

2.9% (I believe) + $0.30 Per Transaction
it is actually 3.4% + 20p if you are in the UK

https://www.paypal.com/webapps/mpp/paypal-fees
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Because paypal is not giving sellers protection on hosting.
Usually person is using your hosting for >180 days then they dispute. And in lot of cases you will lose.
yes they have 180 days, but if you can prove they have used for services then you will always win.

I once had a case when a client disputed after 60 days and when i provided Paypal with evidence of them actually using the services and regularly logging in to their account and when paypal checked the IP used it matched the IP they used to make the claim with paypal they had enough to award the claim in my favour and they lost.
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We are using PayPal since 2 years. No issues at all.When your client is good and you providing services as per commited.No issues at all.Having PayPal actually increase the sales due to people trust with PayPal.
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yes they have 180 days, but if you can prove they have used for services then you will always win.

I once had a case when a client disputed after 60 days and when i provided Paypal with evidence of them actually using the services and regularly logging in to their account and when paypal checked the IP used it matched the IP they used to make the claim with paypal they had enough to award the claim in my favour and they lost.
I will have to keep that in mind about the IP evidence you described. Sometimes the smallest piece of evidence is all it takes, but it can be easily overlooked. Thanks.
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I will have to keep that in mind about the IP evidence you described. Sometimes the smallest piece of evidence is all it takes, but it can be easily overlooked. Thanks.
It is amazing on how many people dont know that IP addresses are now logged by many systems and they think as their ISPs give them dynamic IPs that they cannot be traced to them.
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It is amazing on how many people dont know that IP addresses are now logged by many systems and they think as their ISPs give them dynamic IPs that they cannot be traced to them.
So true. My ISP for my home WI-FI issues a new IP about every 3-4 days, but if a person does a reverse DNS on the IP it always shows the ISPs name. Which is very helpful to me because every time i login to a forum, paypal or my servers it shows that i probably am still the same person. I never login to anything using vpn, proxies or public wifi.

Hopefully i will never have to deal with a dispute or chargeback, but if i do i will definitely remember this handy little peice of advice about following IP trails and point it out to paypal.

Once again thanks much for pointing out the IP trail in your experience with your paypal dispute with a nefarious client.
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Out of all my customers around 90% pay via PayPal. The rest use Cryptocurrencies or Skrill.
But to be honest those who used Crypto rarely provided real info about themselves so you can assume something shady is going on.
With paypal you can at least identify your customer which adds a layer of security.
Noone wants phishing or warez sites among their hosted websites...
 
 
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