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Harv45 10-12-2017 01:04 PM

Charging a Late Fee? Do they REALLY works?
 
Hello, I am wondering if late fees really works? Do you get a profit from charging customers a late fee? Are there restrictions in the USA on this like loans are regulated?

Or are you just wasting time not seeing any of this coming to you as the customer can just leave and "abort" his excess charges? Given that chasing them aren't normally worth it?

pixelhosts 10-12-2017 01:48 PM

First of all you shouldn't think of it as if you charge a fee do you make profit, after all a late payment fee is their to encourage the client to pay on time yet if that client has not paid for his service in the first place then will he actually pay a late fee aswell. In my opinion charging a late fee does not work, and as a client would put me off from going with that service when they are others out their that don't charge a late fee. Try thinking about what you can do to keep that client with you for longer and keep them as a loyal customer so they are more willing to pay for their services on time.

Harv45 10-12-2017 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by pixelhosts (Post 225233)
First of all you shouldn't think of it as if you charge a fee do you make profit, after all a late payment fee is their to encourage the client to pay on time yet if that client has not paid for his service in the first place then will he actually pay a late fee aswell. In my opinion charging a late fee does not work, and as a client would put me off from going with that service when they are others out their that don't charge a late fee. Try thinking about what you can do to keep that client with you for longer and keep them as a loyal customer so they are more willing to pay for their services on time.

Thank you very much for explaining your opinions to me. I could very much understand why it would may be worth more while to focus on retention practices rather than "making" them pay on time and/or the late charges. :)

Artashes 10-12-2017 02:19 PM

Let's say a client decided to end the service with a hosting provider and he/she really doesn't have the time to go through the whole process officially through a billing ticket request. If a client would just stop paying for service with numerous reminders that he/she receives by the system anyway, it likely means the client is no longer interested in the service and doesn't want to get charged anymore. So if you go ahead and charge the client a late fee, what would that accomplish except now angry client?

I understand that not letting the company know about you no longer needing the service is a little lazy and a little douche-y, but that probably happens more commonly.

Most companies just have it outlined in terms that they would terminate the account if the client doesn't pay for 30-45 days. It then becomes client's fear that he may lose access to files if he doesn't do something. Charging an account reinstating fee (or access to files fee), in that case, makes it a lot more fair.

Harv45 10-12-2017 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Artashes (Post 225236)
Let's say a client decided to end the service with a hosting provider and he/she really doesn't have the time to go through the whole process officially through a billing ticket request. If a client would just stop paying for service with numerous reminders that he/she receives by the system anyway, it likely means the client is no longer interested in the service and doesn't want to get charged anymore. So if you go ahead and charge the client a late fee, what would that accomplish except now angry client?

I understand that not letting the company know about you no longer needing the service is a little lazy and a little douche-y, but that probably happens more commonly.

Most companies just have it outlined in terms that they would terminate the account if the client doesn't pay for 30-45 days. It then becomes client's fear that he may lose access to files if he doesn't do something. Charging an account reinstating fee (or access to files fee), in that case, makes it a lot more fair.

I see, it is true that I seen those sort of fees more often than a daily/weekly/monthly late fee charge.

I could see that being a more "middle ground" agreement rather than charging a regular late fee on top of the invoices.

You could even do it where the customer has to pay ALL of the outstanding invoices PLUS the said extra charges. That way they has less room to "screw around with you" if they really need their data.

Floxera-Jose 10-18-2017 03:38 PM

We use Blesta and we have a plugin that allowed us to charge a late fee, however we prefer not to use it. However, is in our TOS that we can charge a let fee. When we have clients that get a little late in payment is invoice, or don't pay at all we suspend the service, and that is more than enough. If the client want to keep with us, he will open a ticket asking for a few more days until he have money, or other explanation, and we understand things like that can happen. However if we get no answer, we just cancel the plan and move on.

vikmanager 10-28-2017 07:04 AM

I think that late fee it is not good in our time. You must be more loyal to your client. In our days is big competition in hosting and you can lose your clients, if you will use late fee.

easyhostmedia 10-31-2017 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by pixelhosts (Post 225233)
Try thinking about what you can do to keep that client with you for longer and keep them as a loyal customer so they are more willing to pay for their services on time.

Would you want to keep a client that does not pay bills on time.

I think late fees work, as it informs a client if they don't pay on time then they have to pay a fee.

We charge 20% or 2 whichever is greater late fee after 2 days overdue and at the same time of account suspension and so far any client that has been late pays this without question.

easyhostmedia 10-31-2017 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Artashes (Post 225236)
Let's say a client decided to end the service with a hosting provider and he/she really doesn't have the time to go through the whole process officially through a billing ticket request. If a client would just stop paying for service with numerous reminders that he/she receives by the system anyway, it likely means the client is no longer interested in the service and doesn't want to get charged anymore. So if you go ahead and charge the client a late fee, what would that accomplish except now angry client?

I understand that not letting the company know about you no longer needing the service is a little lazy and a little douche-y, but that probably happens more commonly.

Most companies just have it outlined in terms that they would terminate the account if the client doesn't pay for 30-45 days. It then becomes client's fear that he may lose access to files if he doesn't do something. Charging an account reinstating fee (or access to files fee), in that case, makes it a lot more fair.

Our system will still go through the same automated process as set in our TOS and billing policy, if they just fail to pay then after 14 days past due date hosting is terminated, they then have a further 7 days to pay any dues to get their files off our backup server after 7 days the files are removed from backup server and then invoices passed to debt collection as we send invoices 14 days before due date and various reminders and terminate 14 days after due date even after suspension their files still on server, so still using services.

Kieran 12-07-2017 04:21 PM

I don't think late fees work at all.

Think about it logically, if you bought a service like Netflix that renews monthly, and you failed to renew it, would you be more likely to renew it if you were charged more?

I certainly wouldn't, in the age of automated billing there's little reason to fail payment, unlesss the client no longer wants the service.

That's why it's good to have a simple cancellation procedure, through clients Area and other channels like chat (assuming Account identity is secure).

And some other people suggest debt collection agency's if they don't renew, but at the need of the day, unless it's a dedicated server etc, and it was expensive to provide, there's no point in debt collection agency's as enforcement will likely cost more than the client ever paid, or the service costs.

In the offline world, or anywhere outside the hosting industry, I've not seen anywhere charge late fees.

- Kieran

DanielN 01-03-2018 03:23 AM

I can confirm that they don't work.
I tried them both and I experienced a higher return rate if I don't use late fees.
It seems to me that once customers see the late fees they will find another host rather than pay it. I guess they think something like this: "ahh late fee? This is bull****" :D

hostingress 01-04-2018 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DanielN (Post 226853)
I can confirm that they don't work.
I tried them both and I experienced a higher return rate if I don't use late fees.
It seems to me that once customers see the late fees they will find another host rather than pay it. I guess they think something like this: "ahh late fee? This is bull****" :D

Agree with you..

invpsus 01-19-2018 02:54 AM

We at one time renounced Late Fees, as this negatively affects the loyalty of our customers.
I think the use of this option is not the best idea

whmcsguru 01-19-2018 06:26 AM

Here's the thing (and it's really not that hard to understand):

If you don't want to pay a late fee, then pay your bills on time. That's all. That's it. No more discussion.

In the real world (you know, that thing that exists outside of your computer, your monitor, and your social media BS?), there's no discussion. if you're late, you're charged a fee.

In the real world, you can't simply skip out on rent, on utilities, on your mortgage, your car payment, your cell phone payment. This has a real consequence.

Just because you think nobody knows you on the internet is no reason to act like a complete ass and refuse to pay your bills.

SenseiSteve 01-19-2018 11:26 AM

When you're contractually obligated to pay a bill at scheduled intervals, I wonder why anyone wouldn't expect late fees if they don't pay on time. If they migrate elsewhere, don't you think they're going to do the same to that provider?


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