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  Post #1 (permalink)   06-28-2019, 03:44 PM
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cPanel are increasing the pricing for their licenses by removing their unlimited cPanel account licenses. cPanel are also introducing billing per cPanel account after reaching 100 cPanel accounts.

You can read more about this at the following threads on WebHostingTalk.

Massive cPanel price rises
Announcing Account Based Pricing
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  Post #2 (permalink)   06-28-2019, 09:02 PM
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The most consumer-unfriendly and brutal price increase in the history of this industry.

I wonder how many smaller companies will go out of business.
I wonder how many consumers will end up losing their websites due to absence of a habit to backup.
 
 
 


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This is the problem with systems run by a near monopoly.

Unfortunately, as hosts, we have played into their hands by providing customers with the same panel everywhere.
Not only has this made us all look the same, but it's tied us into having to pay them no matter what.

However, it's the natural progression.
Before we sold our business, we were operating machines with 64 cores and 256GB of RAM. Were we hosting thousands of customers per server and only paying one license.
(Thanks CloudLinux for making it possible to have that stability).
I think this is happening across the industry (on the most established hosts), so cPanel is probably seeing their profits shrink as people buy bigger and bigger servers and reducing the license count.

cPanel bought this on themselves by insisting on no lifetime licenses creating a large monthly expense, making them wholly dependant on this ever reducing monthly revenue.
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  Post #4 (permalink)   06-29-2019, 03:06 AM
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The most consumer-unfriendly and brutal price increase in the history of this industry.

I wonder how many smaller companies will go out of business.
I wonder how many consumers will end up losing their websites due to absence of a habit to backup.
i think this was coming as they use the same method for WHMCS.

i see a lot of users moving to the free CWP (centos web panel) as you can migrate cpanel accounts
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You can install migrate cPanel users to DirectAdmin.

Let's hope they don't do the same.
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I saw this coming with the migration of DNSonly to 'licenses'. People mocked... I said, watch...

Well, I hate to say 'I told you so', but..........

I TOLD YOU SO!!!

/me goes back to hiding and migrating everything off of a cPanel server
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  Post #7 (permalink)   06-30-2019, 10:22 AM
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I saw this coming with the migration of DNSonly to 'licenses'. People mocked... I said, watch...

Well, I hate to say 'I told you so', but..........

I TOLD YOU SO!!!

/me goes back to hiding and migrating everything off of a cPanel server
But at the moment DNSonly is still free, they just licenced this, so they know how many people are using it
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i think this was coming as they use the same method for WHMCS.

i see a lot of users moving to the free CWP (centos web panel) as you can migrate cpanel accounts
Compared to this, price hike with WHMCS was fair They should have a unlimited pricing atleast. Reseller hosting industry will have to change to adapt. No more unlimited domains, atleast with cPanel.

Fact is that even the staffs didn't know about this hike. I wonder whether even cPanel's Nick knew about it. For partners who have around 300 domains on each server, the costs have increased from 27 to 50+.

I still believe they will reduce the costs considering the hatred spreading.

Good for DirectAdmin, Interworx and other panels out there
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Compared to this, price hike with WHMCS was fair They should have a unlimited pricing atleast. Reseller hosting industry will have to change to adapt. No more unlimited domains, atleast with cPanel.

Fact is that even the staffs didn't know about this hike. I wonder whether even cPanel's Nick knew about it. For partners who have around 300 domains on each server, the costs have increased from 27 to 50+.

I still believe they will reduce the costs considering the hatred spreading.

Good for DirectAdmin, Interworx and other panels out there
If you think about it Plesk have being doing this for years
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But at the moment DNSonly is still free, they just licenced this, so they know how many people are using it
There's a reason they wanted to know that... So they can do precisely what they just did. It's all about calculating your base total
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There's a reason they wanted to know that... So they can do precisely what they just did. It's all about calculating your base total
but knowing who uses DNSonly does not tell them who is also using cPanel/WHM
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I couldn't find answers in their documents (or maybe I wasn't looking in the right places) but with regards to the licenses, they're referring to individual accounts on a server. Does this mean, if the host has a reseller account, and that reseller has 20 accounts, then the actual host needs to pay for 20 accounts?

If so, this not only could affect smaller companies, but some of the big places too. The ones that jam 100+ resellers on a server with "unlimited resources" and then those resellers sell 100-200 accounts per account.

Again, I couldn't find much information on how it will affect reseller accounts, or how WHMCS will tie in to figure out how many accounts are active on a server etc.

Anyone have a link for details on that end of things?
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  Post #13 (permalink)   07-01-2019, 11:28 AM
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I couldn't find answers in their documents (or maybe I wasn't looking in the right places) but with regards to the licenses, they're referring to individual accounts on a server. Does this mean, if the host has a reseller account, and that reseller has 20 accounts, then the actual host needs to pay for 20 accounts?

If so, this not only could affect smaller companies, but some of the big places too. The ones that jam 100+ resellers on a server with "unlimited resources" and then those resellers sell 100-200 accounts per account.

Again, I couldn't find much information on how it will affect reseller accounts, or how WHMCS will tie in to figure out how many accounts are active on a server etc.

Anyone have a link for details on that end of things?
I think its per account on a licence. i.e you have a VPS licence with 10 reseller accounts and each of them have 10 accounts on then you pay the fee for 100 accounts
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Also Oakley Capital who own Plesk bought out cPanel last year.

https://hostingjournalist.com/web-ho...l-buys-cpanel/
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I think its per account on a licence. i.e you have a VPS licence with 10 reseller accounts and each of them have 10 accounts on then you pay the fee for 100 accounts
That's how I was reading it too, but I couldn't find anything detailing it out that way.

As far as Oakley Capital - I believe with cPanel and Plesk, the last numbers I saw was a 70% market share.

Thankfully, when I ran webhosting, we never had any reseller accounts. People purchased VPS or Dedicated if they wanted to resell on their own. And our servers (even 5 years ago) were capped at 100 accounts per machine, and 25-30 accounts if they were an eCommerce server. That was how we kept our speeds fast.

Today, I know hardware is much better, but I'm not sure how I'd be reacting if I was still in the hosting business. We were an NOC Partner with cpanel too (had our own datacenter and servers) so pricing would have been lower, but still, the pricing change and announcment shook the industry as a whole.
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