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  Post #16 (permalink)   01-22-2011, 08:25 AM
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A lot of people posting on web hosting forums would lead you to believe this is a saturated industry.
We agree with you Steve this market is far from saturated. You have new people entering the market everyday. Their skill level will determine where they get their services from.

As a reseller you get the advantages that there is no overhead, but you also remember you are selling someone else's product.

There are clients out there for everyone, if you find your niche you will make a good living. Remember it is not about the 10.00 you will make today but the 1000.00 or more you will make over the life of the client.

You never know when that small shared client could need a whole rack and still growing. (True story).

One last point about reselling and profit margins, if you are greedy you will get some customers but not many, and like Steve said in his post if you are to inexpensive (affordable), they may not see any value in your services. Hence no customers. You must show value and if you do, your prices can be higher than average but you have to get the customer to see that value.

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  Post #17 (permalink)   02-05-2011, 01:34 PM
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What kind of profit margins can web hosting resellers make? Since it's such a competitive business, I'd imagine resellers would undercut each other and so margins would be thin.
It's hard to predict what the margin are because:
1. You just started a hosting business and you want clients ( no profit at first )
2. You just want profit.

What is the real situation ( and there are many more )?
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  Post #18 (permalink)   02-10-2011, 03:56 PM
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I am currently the General Manager of a new web hosting company what would be some great advice for us starting out.. if you want to know the site just pm me so you can take a look.

I have read what you said above but if you don't have cheaper prices what types of incentives do you offer to get people to use you instead of someone else that is already established?
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  Post #19 (permalink)   02-11-2011, 12:05 AM
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its obviously upto plan how your business plane attrect and growth of your busniess
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  Post #20 (permalink)   02-11-2011, 09:59 PM
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it really depends on how much you are paying for your reseller account and how much you are charging to your new clients.
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  Post #21 (permalink)   02-12-2011, 03:19 PM
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And also if you are reselling, pray that your service provider aren't cheap and lame fly by night companies!
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  Post #22 (permalink)   02-21-2011, 01:52 PM
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Try to establish what gross margin you want to aim for, and then price your offerings accordingly. You can take your basic costs of web space per 100M and bandwidth per GB, for instance, and calculate what the selling price would be for accounts at a 50, 75 or 85% gross margin.

If you are into any kind of niche at all, an 85% GM (or more) is not out of the question. There are other costs that have to be considered, and net profit will be quite a bit lower.

I'm often amazed at how many people how no idea how much margin they have, setting their prices just by a comparison of competition.
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  Post #23 (permalink)   02-24-2011, 01:00 AM
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The margin in reselling is reasonable. Its depend how many customer you can get per week or per day. I am using reseller and i am earning good.
 
 
 


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  Post #24 (permalink)   02-24-2011, 01:20 PM
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A lot of us are throwing out numbers, and I realize some who say margins are slim may be thinking in terms of net margins, while those of us saying shoot for 100% margins ... I use 85% in my business ... may be talking about gross margins. So here are some definitions and how margins are calculated:

Definition of Gross Margin:

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What Does Gross Margin Mean?
A company's total sales revenue minus its cost of goods sold, divided by the total sales revenue, expressed as a percentage. The gross margin represents the percent of total sales revenue that the company retains after incurring the direct costs associated with producing the goods and services sold by a company. The higher the percentage, the more the company retains on each dollar of sales to service its other costs and obligations.

Formula: Gross Margin=((Sell Price - Cost of Goods ) / Sell Price)
I do a gross margin calculation on each product or service I sell. My overhead is otherwise low, but even so there is a big difference between an individual product or service's gross margin and my company's net margins.


Definition of Net Margin:
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Net margins will vary from company to company, and certain ranges can be expected from industry to industry, as similar business constraints exist in each distinct industry. A company like Wal-Mart has made fortunes for its shareholders while operating on net margins less than 5% annually, while at the other end of the spectrum some technology companies can run on net margins of 15-20% or greater.

Most publicly traded companies will report their net margins both quarterly (during earnings releases) and in their annual reports. Companies that are able to expand their net margins over time will generally be rewarded with share price growth, as it leads directly to higher levels of profitability.
The formula for net margin takes into account not only the cost of all goods, but also all other expenses the company incurs:

Net Margin = (Net Profit/Total Revenue)

Where "Net Profit" is the difference between total costs and total revenue. To get the margin percentage, you divide net profit by the total revenue as shown in the formula.

Savvis, a large company that provides hosting for businesses and owns data centers (among other things) has their financial information published since they are public. I don't know of any "hosting only" companies that are also public, but there may be some. It would be interesting to see their 10K reports.

The recession has hit Savvis hard, as their net income for 2009 was -20 million (negative numbers are bad). In 2007, before the recession, they had net income of 250M+.

Looking at 2007, they had 794M in revenue, with 454M in costs, for a GM of 75%. Down at the bottom of the chart, they had 251M in net profit, for a net profit margin of about 32%.

So if you ask Savvis, they could say they have a margin of 75% (gross margin), but there is really only 32% (net profit margin).

(If I've done the math correctly!)
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  Post #25 (permalink)   02-25-2011, 06:16 AM
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It depends on you, how big you plan and also depends on discount that you give to your customer.
 
 
 


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  Post #26 (permalink)   02-25-2011, 07:44 PM
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It really depends on how big the plan is and the price. You can make a little or a lot.
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Depends on your prices you would like to implement and how big your reseller plan would be.
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  Post #28 (permalink)   04-05-2011, 07:40 PM
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Hosting reselling is indeed a good business, which can give you a good profit every month.

But you should remember one thing that it is not such a business that will start giving you good profits and make you rich over the night. You must have patience and a good support team earn good profits as soon as possible.

Also, do not forget marketing, I would suggest you first target your local market instead of world wide.
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  Post #29 (permalink)   04-06-2011, 02:15 PM
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try to aim for about 50% back in profits or so, but sometimes if you want to start out try a little lower...
 
 
 


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  Post #30 (permalink)   07-15-2011, 03:18 PM
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50% sounds reasonable to me, but obviously the higher the better if your base cost allows you to stay within a reasonable price range for your clients. My current plans are calculated for 30%, but I still realize certain costs I forgot every day so I might nodge it up to 50%.

Also, I want to be prepared for the future. Being a reseller (like me) is generally a lot cheaper than renting or owning your own server. The last thing you want to do is having to increase your prices by 200% because the basecosts of running a dedicated server are 200% higher than your reseller package. I'd rather lower my prices should the dedicated server end up cheaper than expected. No nasty surprises and potentially leaving clients, that way.
 
 
 
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