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  Post #31 (permalink)   06-21-2013, 06:11 PM
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i think the process from a reseller should be a VPS and then dedicated, this way you get used to running and managing a server
Poor advice. Sadly, too many hosts are like these, learning server management on production servers. They should learn server management on a lab server, while they are reselling, not on the customer's server -- vps or not. This would make a better host

When I first started hosting there was really no such thing as a VPS (at lease in hosting market). I had to go from reseller to dedicated (to colo). But I already knew how to manage a server since I was a sys admin by profession.

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Poor advice. Sadly, too many hosts are like these, learning server management on production servers. They should learn server management on a lab server, while they are reselling, not on the customer's server -- vps or not. This would make a better host

When I first started hosting there was really no such thing as a VPS (at lease in hosting market). I had to go from reseller to dedicated (to colo). But I already knew how to manage a server since I was a sys admin by profession.
It is not bad advice as yes learning on a test server, but their are processes that need to be learned on a production server. I learned on a production server without any problems towards clients. I now have a test server where i can replicate issues to learn
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one thing I am not clear about is why do big hosting companies offer reselling?
In the end it just creates more competition for them.
 
 
 


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I am sorry and another question. Is it better to resell VPS or shared hosting.

It seems to me that shared hosting plans are so low priced that it is very hard to make profit.
 
 
 


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If you have a reseller account that costs your $10 a month, they you can easily make a profit selling shared hosting plans.

If you have a VPS then you can easily make a profit selling reseller plans and then just let your clients sell shared plans, as long as your clients pay you then what they make is no concern of yours and no competition for you if you dont offer shared plans. 95% of our clients have reseller plans, with very few selling hosting direct, most have their own sites and it works cheaper have a reseller plan, i have several designers who design sites and offer hosting space as part of their designed sites. the 5% on shared plans are ones where we have a niche service of providing fully installed sites
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It depends whether the client is weighing which factor the most. If the client is weighing uptime, availability and other factors over the price, and if you are able to provide them exactly what they want, then definitely it would benefit you, despite what plan are you reselling - VPS or Shared.

Also, the trust is another thing that will help you increase your client base. Suffice your existing clients with the expected things and see how your customer base as well as revenue will grow. Just purchasing and reselling the plans won't work anymore. You need to take initiative in every aspect and enhance the service by your own.
 
 


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Just curious about reselling - perhaps that's how it stared for all of you as well ....

Anyway if I assume a "typical" small reseller being effectively a one man shop with a bit of advertising.

How busy does it get ? How many new accounts would you be adding a day and how much time do you spend fixing user problems - or is small (one man) reselling just a no go - as soon as you add users you need a full time support team.
I have a reseller account with some clients on, think I've had three tickets in the 4-5 years that I've had it.
I make small time money on it but it's a side business where I would like to do as little as possible on it.

No advertising done except a few times in the beginning but nohing the last years since I don't want it to grow. it's fine where it is right now. Every now and then I get a new client or loose one of the ones I had.... but that's life.
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If you have a reseller account that costs your $10 a month, they you can easily make a profit selling shared hosting plans.

If you have a VPS then you can easily make a profit selling reseller plans and then just let your clients sell shared plans, as long as your clients pay you then what they make is no concern of yours and no competition for you if you dont offer shared plans. 95% of our clients have reseller plans, with very few selling hosting direct, most have their own sites and it works cheaper have a reseller plan, i have several designers who design sites and offer hosting space as part of their designed sites. the 5% on shared plans are ones where we have a niche service of providing fully installed sites
Thanks on answering my question.


I think I will need to dig much deeper into technical side of things.

The way you describe it it seems very fragile thing.

Reselling hosting where you serve customers without even ever seeing physical server.

My apologies for such basic questions I am quite new.
 
 
 


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I think I will need to dig much deeper into technical side of things.

The way you describe it it seems very fragile thing.

Reselling hosting where you serve customers without even ever seeing physical server.

My apologies for such basic questions I am quite new.
the only way you would see the physical server is if you own the hardware and colocate to a datacenter that you can visit.

their a lot more technical aspects in running a VPS than their is if you have a reseller account.
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Just starting out you'll probably not be that busy. It can take some time to gain clients.

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1GB RAM is enough for cpanel, you may try master reseller from whitelebel provider.
 
 
 


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one thing I am not clear about is why do big hosting companies offer reselling?
In the end it just creates more competition for them.
Because most resellers do a poor job at it, and then they don't succeed.
 
 
 


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If thou are looking to make it big, then you will need to spend a lot of time and effort. Initially, on marketing and getting new clients. Subsequently, as you gain traction on support, counting partnership/deals, upgrading your portfolio to vps and dedi.
 
 
 


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It is good idea, but you got to care about clients, they require customer service, which isn't easy to come-by.
 
 
 


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For my first year in business I was on a reseller account paying around $15 a month - before switching to my own dedicated I was grossing around 600$ revenue monthly.

Even now with a few dedicated servers I don't find the work load to be unmanageable by any means! Maybe a ticket or two a month. The amount of support tickets and issues is going to heavily depend on your target client though
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