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  Post #31 (permalink)   02-03-2014, 12:36 PM
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Disadvantage, overworks the servers customers get poor service!
 
 
 


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Overselling has no effect on server performance. Anyone who thinks that it does is not qualified to manage a server.
 
 
 


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  Post #33 (permalink)   02-03-2014, 10:33 PM
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I think there's a lot of miscommunication in this thread

Overselling disk is very common and I see no problem with it, though some of the big hosting companies (Hostgator, Hostdime, etc.) do not allow it. If I sell 100 hosting plans with 5GB of disk, in theory I should have 500GB of disk sitting there. But we all know that lots of those 100 people will never use more than 100MB. Some will use their full 5GB of course, but as long as keep enough disk on hand so that people can use their 5GB, I don't think that's bad/unethical/bad business/etc. It requires capacity management, but it'd be foolish for providers to keep terabytes of disk around because of some imaginary moral obligation to keep enough free disk because suddenly everyone might use 100%.

A key point here is that the customer never knows or complains - there is no impact to the user.

Overselling server performance is what was labeled overloading. That is definitely bad and that is not a good idea. In this case, the customer definitely knows and complains.
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  Post #34 (permalink)   02-16-2014, 01:22 AM
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The hosts in this thread claiming they don't oversell probably don't have many clients. Overselling is unfortunately a fact of the industry and doesn't hurt the client if done correctly.
 
 
 


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  Post #35 (permalink)   02-19-2014, 12:46 PM
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I typically don't like overselling more than 200 or 250%. I have heard of some companies, whom will remain nameless, that oversell at least 700 to 800%.
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Overselling is not necessary a bad thing. It really depends what is the extent it is being carried out. Anyone who has been working in the industry long enough and monitoring their clients usage would find that most users actually do not even come close to their resources allocation.

If this allows the hosting provider to place more accounts on the server and cut down the need to run another server just to place more users for them, this can represent lower costs for the client to begin with. On the flip-side, a blatant addition of clients to a server which resources are already near or past its capacity can only result in all the clients on the server suffering.

I feel most of the complaints I read online have always been resultant of the hosting provider overloading the server and not proactively monitoring it sufficiently to notice that the resources are running out. Sure, by all means place more users on each server since they don't really use that much resources initially, but monitor it properly to ensure they do not exceed what the server can handle later on.
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Overselling is a disadvantage to the potential clients.

Hosts oversell to make more money with little resources.

But in some ways....

If a host offer 10Gb space (really dedicated resource - not oversold)

but most of the clients don't use more than 1Gb then it is 9Gb extra.

So they can oversell 10 times. But that's not good and 20-30% overselling will not affect heavily too.

Hosts oversel to beat up prices of hosting with competitors and to reach the Hosting Industry.
 
 
 


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  Post #38 (permalink)   03-29-2014, 04:28 PM
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Overselling the web hosting products is a definitely a disadvantage and sooner or later will make even loyal customers look elsewhere for better, more reliable hosting products. It is simple, when you oversell a shared hosting product, all the other affected websites will experience a downtime and frequent disconnections when using FTP applications or database-driven software programs.
 
 
 


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Overselling is not necessary a bad thing. It really depends what is the extent it is being carried out. Anyone who has been working in the industry long enough and monitoring their clients usage would find that most users actually do not even come close to their resources allocation.

If this allows the hosting provider to place more accounts on the server and cut down the need to run another server just to place more users for them, this can represent lower costs for the client to begin with. On the flip-side, a blatant addition of clients to a server which resources are already near or past its capacity can only result in all the clients on the server suffering.

I feel most of the complaints I read online have always been resultant of the hosting provider overloading the server and not proactively monitoring it sufficiently to notice that the resources are running out. Sure, by all means place more users on each server since they don't really use that much resources initially, but monitor it properly to ensure they do not exceed what the server can handle later on.
You just said exactly what I was going to say. Unfortunately, trying to earn a few extra bucks too often results in greed and server overloads. Proactive monitoring and preemptive reallocation resources is needed for stable and reliable service. It requires 24/7 support, which cannot be afforded by most of start-ups, unfortunately.

Therefore, overselling is a must for a startup to survive, but it must be dropped sooner or later - and better sooner.
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Overselling can tear a company apart including greed. Don't get too greedy.
 
 
 
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