I'm looking for a real host without a control panel:

TMDA
ssh access
pine

10gb traffic
1gb space
1 domain 1 email
1 custom mysql database
php/perl

If you are unable to meet *all* of the above requirements please don't post. shh/tmda/no control panel is a must.

*no servers with control panels

and before the kiddies bombard me with posts asking why no control panels: I want things patched on time (not having to wait for your control panel friends to release a patch that doesnt break their crap), things to be in a standard place, i want an admin who can handle running a plain box of any unix flavor without the aid of a gui with pretty gifs. I'm looking for a new host to free me from control panel hell.

i can give you those..
my servre comes with cPanel but if u dont want u can avoid using that..

Question to the requster:

If CPanel or other panel comes standard, but you can use SSH for your base, is that accpetable?

we could give you an offer but a control panel comes standard u dont have to use it but it comes with it would that be axecptable

I can give you what you request, sans TMDA. I'll look into the possibility of an installation, though.

We actually have a home-grown control panel in development, but it's entirely optional. We don't run cpanel/plesk/ensim for much the same reason you don't want it.

If you're interested, please let me know (via PM or email) -- I'd be happy to discuss our services/setup further. None of our current packages match what you ask for, but we'd be happy to offer a custom quote.

Best,

Ryan C.

Regardless of your bias against all the kiddie as well as 30+ hosts who use ControlPanels...but your beliefs are centered around Cpanel....that is not the end of the CP world.

We have used Plesk and DirectAdmin and both allow services/software to be independently custom-compiled, irrespective of whether the CP vendor comes out with a patch or not.

For TMDA...its best to opt for a VPS. The best/preferred ones are from Dinix.com...the cheapest ones seem to be from jvds.com This would be best for an MTA plugin as you require.

We can give you all of those except for TMDA. We use postfix. We can however give you the functionaloty of TMDA with spamassassin. We never had a generic control panel and never will. You get one web interface to administer your domain's email accounts. We can also set up MyPHP if you need it.

All of our services except for SSH run through SSL . SMTPs/SSL, IMAPs/SSL, POP3s/SSL, SMTP requires authentication, FTPs/SSL, HTTP/HTTPs. We use high grade self-signed certificates. No IMAP/POP3/FTP without SSL.

Please mail your offers to cuefinder@covad.net.