cPanel Price Increase Solutions

webling

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I try to listen a lot more than I talk, especially when it comes to my web hosting concern. In my previous thread that addressed concerns about cPanel price increase, everyone had fantastic ideas and I have gleaned a lot from this.

As much as I like CWP, my techs and I have not used this in production yet. My own network of servers that uses cPanel is migrating to Plesk which for us still costs less than what cPanel used to cost. Granted, it does not have all the bells and whistles. And the server costs in the data center I use is the same as if I installed any of the other free server management solutions.

One of the best bits of advice is offering our customers their choice in server management solutions. To me that's a prize winner. So I am upgrading my entire network of servers, simply put. And at this point, even though I don't want to sound blatantly honest, I'm going to be. With the price my upstream provider quoted me for cPanel when it cost increases, cPanel is fired at this point and will be removed from my entire network in less than two weeks.

Okay, here's where the rubber meets the road. These companies that have developed for many years try to make people dependent on them. To be blatantly honest again, I'm not one of them and I am certain I will lose no hosting customers whatsoever because I have already filled them in.

And even though I like WHMCS, they don't have a sure foot hold on my servers any longer either.

Where's the beef? I'll tell you where it is. And it's NOT in the bowl of soup any more. There are a lot of companies right now who want to get a foot hold in the web hosting scenario and they are willing to either do free, or very low cost. Now, I never chose to build my company to the high end. I just hate top heavy and I always handle all the sales and support myself. I know the value in that. So in my company I kiss nobody's tail because they think they are a host shot. I do serve my clients extremely well and any time I have to move servers or make an entire network change, I educate my customers extremely well.


If I had to rebuild my company from the ground up because of some software vendor thinking they have a foot hold on my company, they will deal with their nose bouncing off the pavement on short notice. I kid you not. I'm a professional writer, and not to boast, it's just something that comes natural to me. So if I have to rewrite countless pages and rebuild everything I do, I'll be on it 24/7.

When these companies who try to dominate the market do this, they get absolutely no where with me. Even before cPanel's price increase I already began adding servers to my network, backing up every single domain I host and working on migrating my entire network. At least one major vendor is fired now from my company, and a second major one is next and I guarantee you, my company will operate better than ever because of this. I love the challenge because I improve every time and over the years when this has happened, yes, I panic a bit, but only for one evening. The very next morning I wake up with a new perspective and go at things with heightened and thankful that every ugly beast in this market eventually shows themselves.

My clients are more important to me and I have already assured them that whatever happens next, I am working feverishly to give them a choice not only in what they want, but in what they pay for their hosting.

When the big companies rise up, I fire them and my own company continues to flourish. So this is what I am sharing with you, don't let this stuff bug you, take your coat off, roll up your sleeves, work harder and learn to type very phast!

*phew* okay, rant over. But it's all meant for the better and I am happy to share all of this with you because many of you have helped me along the way also.
 
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I get and understand that a lot of people are upset with the new pricing cpanel. I am not happy about it either. However, what can we do about it. They was to make more money and it seems like a lot of people who run businesses do this after being the hottest thing on the market for years.
 
This makes me glad that I bought lifetime licenses for my control panels, whilst they were available.
I still do so for other branded panels when possible.
 
I get and understand that a lot of people are upset with the new pricing cpanel. I am not happy about it either. However, what can we do about it. They was to make more money and it seems like a lot of people who run businesses do this after being the hottest thing on the market for years.

The whole point of this thread is to address the question you presented AFTER this thread was created, "what can we do about it."

If you have been following my threads, this is what I present and I have already taken major steps in this. I no longer use cPanel. Once I knew that my next bill to them would escalate 200% or more, it wasn't hard for my brain to figure out what to do next. I have used Plesk in the past and I have no problem migrating to another control panel. I've been in the web hosting arena a LONG time and this is why I am doing a LOT of writing on this forum. To help others who are not seasoned in this to find these answers.

Here is one of my first suggestions if this is what you are doing. (I don't want to speculate) If you are using Google as your search engine, stop, right now. They are one of the biggest problems online. Not only are they brain washing many people, they are also tracking you. So what is the resolve? We've gotten stuck on them right? I haven't. Have you? Start using DuckDuckgo. Add them as your search engine. Fire Google and anyone else who tries to trap people online. Are you with me?

I even started my own social networking site, do you know that people have actually left FB to go there? Here's the problem, we have been conditioned by this world. Don't just think outside the box, throw the box away! Stop using the box as your standard.

Do you know why sites like Google, Facebook and others have gotten so big? They got people to rely on them. Do you know why cPanel has gotten so big? Yep, you guessed it, same reason why Google, Facebook and Twitter got so big. And you are trapped like everyone else stuck in the loop. Are you getting this yet?

Get out of the loop. We need more people to throw the box away and get out of the loop. I could go on about the psychology of today and why people want "easy." Instead of trying to figure out why things aren't working, focus on what can work for YOU.

I don't have time to break this all down, but I'm trying to bring my understanding in a nutshell. Start focusing on a niche that your company can reach. And if you can start other companies that reach a niche, do that as well. I won't reveal a lot, but this is why my own company is surviving. In fact, I just registered a new domain for a new web hosting company that will reach a different niche. Discover your niche, but keep one thing in mind, it has to be your passion.

'nuff said.... more later.
 
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Talk with your feet and leave to another solution.

Exactly. Granted I don't have all the functionality in Plesk that I did in cPanel, but there is enough that I can still do everything I need to. Since I configure PTR records I like the fact that I can still do that in Plesk without a problem. We still have a choice between RoundCube and Horde. Things are just done differently is all.

I actually started my company on Plesk, so coming back to it isn't difficult.
 
Exactly. Granted I don't have all the functionality in Plesk that I did in cPanel, but there is enough that I can still do everything I need to. Since I configure PTR records I like the fact that I can still do that in Plesk without a problem. We still have a choice between RoundCube and Horde. Things are just done differently is all.

I actually started my company on Plesk, so coming back to it isn't difficult.

If you look at cPanel, i wonder how many people actually use more than 30% of the listed features.

Too many features that end users wont have a clue what they are or do and therefore never use them
 
If you look at cPanel, i wonder how many people actually use more than 30% of the listed features.

Too many features that end users wont have a clue what they are or do and therefore never use them

If you're doing things right, and the hosting company doesn't have issues, then there's only 5 things a user should need;

  1. Add/Remove Email Addresses
  2. Webmail (read mail)
  3. Database Setup & phpMyAdmin
  4. File Manager (upload/modify files)
  5. Backups

Done right, a user really should never need to access the control panel other than to make a backup or add/remove an email address.

All other tasks could be handled by the host (if they have a fast response time). We spent enough time providing steps and in live chat walking clients through other areas like DNS modifications etc. It would have been much quicker for staff to do it.
 
If you're doing things right, and the hosting company doesn't have issues, then there's only 5 things a user should need;

  1. Add/Remove Email Addresses
  2. Webmail (read mail)
  3. Database Setup & phpMyAdmin
  4. File Manager (upload/modify files)
  5. Backups

Done right, a user really should never need to access the control panel other than to make a backup or add/remove an email address.

All other tasks could be handled by the host (if they have a fast response time). We spent enough time providing steps and in live chat walking clients through other areas like DNS modifications etc. It would have been much quicker for staff to do it.

And if done right by end user then you should not even need to use webmail or file manager as you should set up emails on PC/laptop/smartphone using email client like Thunderbird and for files far better using FTP/SFTP using an FTP client like WinSCP

most other features should just be left to a hosts WHM
 
And if done right by end user then you should not even need to use webmail or file manager as you should set up emails on PC/laptop/smartphone using email client like Thunderbird and for files far better using FTP/SFTP using an FTP client like WinSCPM

True, but from an ease-ability end of things, while slower than FTP, a FileManager makes life really easy.

I'd personally route the mail through a gsuite account, but webmail is very handy, especially for people who travel or are not on a single computer regularly. Setting up a mail client with IMAP would be a requirement rather than POP (I haven't used a POP address in 15+ years).
 
Setting up a mail client with IMAP would be a requirement rather than POP (I haven't used a POP address in 15+ years).

Yes i use IMAP as its the only system Apple use. The most annoying issue with IMAP is if you remove an email on your phone then it also removes it from your PC.
 
And if done right by end user then you should not even need to use webmail or file manager as you should set up emails on PC/laptop/smartphone using email client like Thunderbird and for files far better using FTP/SFTP using an FTP client like WinSCP

most other features should just be left to a hosts WHM

One of the reasons some people use webmail is so they don't get a virus. Because the email can actually be virus, you can't always tell if you got a virus.
 
One of the reasons some people use webmail is so they don't get a virus. Because the email can actually be virus, you can't always tell if you got a virus.

still get a virus using webmail that will still infect the device your using.

email viruses are transmitted via attachments, so simply dont open attachments.

I use thunderbird and have it set so any emails with attachments dont get through. I also have boxtrapper enabled which stops spam from getting through
 
still get a virus using webmail that will still infect the device your using.

email viruses are transmitted via attachments, so simply dont open attachments.

I use thunderbird and have it set so any emails with attachments dont get through. I also have boxtrapper enabled which stops spam from getting through

As long as you don't open attachments in webmail you should never get a virus.
 
but webmail is no safer or worse than using an external email client like thunderbird, outlook etc.

I've been using webmail for a lot of years now and since using it I never got a virus on my computer. Back when I used an email client on my computer I had problems.
 
Here is one of my first suggestions if this is what you are doing. (I don't want to speculate) If you are using Google as your search engine, stop, right now. They are one of the biggest problems online. Not only are they brain washing many people, they are also tracking you. So what is the resolve? We've gotten stuck on them right? I haven't. Have you? Start using DuckDuckgo. Add them as your search engine. Fire Google and anyone else who tries to trap people online. Are you with me?

This here is where it all begins and soon Facebook and amazon ( if not already ) will be part of it. I don't live in the US but it seems the Europeans are trying very hard to stop this kind of domination, while i feel the americans are starting to follow suit. For me in south Africa we have to wait on the bigger countries to make the decisions. I know this thread is about cpanel but its just another partial example of this model of business. One could argue, they have wiped out the rest of their competition and now are allowed leeway to charge how they want thats business and too a degree I agree with that. There also comes a time when they abuse their monopoly, i As one person cannot say that they are but Goole does, facebook does and sson amazon will too. If cpanel can wipe plesk they will do so too or maybe what we are seeing here is the start of it. Whilst there is not much we can do I think we as consumers need to be aware of the choices we make and the impact they have. We are after all the ones pushing their product not them.
 
I am considering it, our price is just above double. Im just thinking in terms of maintenance and general tasks how much time would a cpanel save me vs a direct admin. I mean if im going to spend a hour extra working on direct admin that hours "pay" would be far more than the cpanel costs
 
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